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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by steaver, Aug 7, 2014.

  1. Use of Time

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    Not in the least. Have a good day.
     
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    Are the Yazidi a Christian sect?
     
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    Sure 'nuff.

    Thanks for the entertainment and the insight you provided.
     
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    Thr Yazidi are NOT Christians, as I suspected. Big O won't help Christians being slaughteted. No sir. But let a non-Christian group be trapped in the mountains, then it is time to send air strikes.
     
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    No.

    If they had been, it's doubtful any type of rescue would have been contemplated by the obama administration.
     
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    Not particularly. They just happen to be in a region where Christian persecution is less prevelant. There is somewhat of a blend of people. Pretty much why the IS is targeting them. I don't think they are going to take the time to sort out the Christians. Everybody is pretty much going to be declared guilty by the caliphate for harboring "infidels." By and large the main Yazidi religion is kind of like a mondernized western islam with influences from Christiantiy. It is kind of hard to explain. You can check out the Wikipedia article but it is organized in a pretty convoluted manner.
     
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    Yes, you are right. Someone said something about Christians on the mountain being rescued by Obama but that was not true.
     
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    Yazidi, Christians and other religious minorities share that particular region of Iraq mainly because the Kurdish autonomy better serves them. Those we have been pulling off the mountain and those that have been displaced are a myriad of Christian, Sufists, and Yazidi (blended Islam and Christianity)

    Again, it seems like everyone is more concerned about the religion of these people (as if that is what determines how we choose who gets to live or die) and an oppurtunity to slam the President than the bigger picture of what is happening in Iraq. It is seriously pathetic.
     
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    Ah, yes, you were the one that said that 0bam@ was rescuing Christians from the mountains--that just was not factual.
     
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    Actually it was factual.

    Read it and weep. http://cnsnews.com/news/article/pat...is-iraq-subjected-savage-rapes-sexual-slavery

    There are many Christians in that area. This may come as a shock to you but the Kurdish zone in northern Iraq is actually pretty even keel and the muslims there intermingle with the Christian minority. That is why the IS have gone on a murdering rampage there. But hey, since some of them weren't Christians well then it's ok for them to starve to death or be executed by the IS right?
     
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    Get real. 0bam@ made this mess by not leaving a residual force behind and the blood is on his hands. 0bam@ did not act over Mosul so there is the hypocrisy. Why should anyone trust a proven liar like 0bam@?
     
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    Hoo boy. He is scrambling now everybody. That was a pretty rapid subject change there. :laugh: Were you this outraged when Bush committed us to a quagmire over WMD's that were never there? I doubt it.
     
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    0bam@ left no residual force and now he is returning to a war that he promised to end. 0bam@ is a liar.
     
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    Would you have had us stay there forever? You going to go sign up for a residual tour? Why do you think Officers are leaving at such a rapid rate. The military is beyond exhausted. Also, why do you want a President that isn't willing to change his mind based on a changing situation. Is it more important to you that he hang onto that statement then help others when needed. That would essentially be placing pride over doing what is right. I'd rather have a President that reacts in realtime to a situation then tries to cling to an outdated statement.

    George Bush declared mission accomplished in 2003? I'm sure you were really outraged about that huh.
     
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    You do have a President in 0bam@ who acts in realtime in response to political problems--apparently in this case with the liberal base as suggested by Hillary. The GOP has no input since 2008 and does not trust this proven liar. 0bam@ went against advice when he left Iraq without bothering to leave a residual force because he promised to end the war and withdraw. However, events with a political overtone forced 0bam@ to break yet another promise after having made a mess of the withdrawal. Since 0bam@ is starting another war, what is his plan?
     
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    But he isn't starting another war. Both Republican and Demcratic leaders have been in agreement that bombing the IS in support of the Kurds is probably a good idea. You are being so overly dramatic to try and call this a return to war.

    How about you tell me what this residual force is supposed to have done? I'd love to hear this one.
     
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    Don't forget he declared a few days ago that it wasn't his fault, implying it was Bush's fault.
     
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    That question is one of the most bizarre defenses of 0bam@ ever. The problem is that 0bam@ is a liar and cannot be trusted. 0bam@ is guilty of criminal actions.
     
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    He has no plan, he makes it up as he goes along. Doesn't know the difference between foreign policy and shooting a few hoops or taking a selfie at a funeral with a good looking blond and Michelle looking on!
     
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