will you have free will in heaven?

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  1. massdak

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    this is a question more so for arminians. does a person still have free will to even sin in heaven if they decide to?
     
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    Great Question. :D
     
  3. dianetavegia

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    When that which is perfect has come.... our FREE will, will be HIS will.

    Diane
    Who FREELY chose to accept the FREE gift
     
  4. Yelsew

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    Consider that only the believers, the faithful will be in heaven. The unbelievers along with Satan, and all of his henchmen will have been cast into the lake of fire. There will be no temptations or temptors in heaven. There will be no sin in heaven. All sins will have been confessed, All sins will have been forgiven and all sinners will have been cleansed from all unrighteousness.

    So the answer to your question about sin is No!

    As for free will? Yes we will freely exercise our human will to worship God! All desire to sin will have been put away.
     
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    There was no sin on earth at the beginning yet Adam and Eve sinned.
     
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    There was no sin on earth at the beginning yet Adam and Eve sinned. </font>[/QUOTE]Look to Revelation 20:14,15 and see that the agents of evil, the father of lies, and his puppets have been cast into the lake of fire, followed by All who's names are not written in the Book of life. There simply will be no agency for sin in heaven!
     
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    Pre-Fall Man: Able to Sin and Able to Not Sin
    Post-Fall Man: Able to Sin and Unable to not Sin
    Reborn Man: Able to Sin and Able to Not Sin
    Glorified Man: Able to Not Sin and Unable to Sin
     
  8. massdak

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    There was no sin on earth at the beginning yet Adam and Eve sinned. </font>[/QUOTE]Look to Revelation 20:14,15 and see that the agents of evil, the father of lies, and his puppets have been cast into the lake of fire, followed by All who's names are not written in the Book of life. There simply will be no agency for sin in heaven! </font>[/QUOTE]so the devil made you do it :eek:
     
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    i still do not see any good arminian answers for the question backed up with scripture
     
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    Massdak,

    That's because there are none! :D
     
  11. massdak

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    Where [is] the wise arminian? where [is] the scribe? where [is] the disputer of this topic?
     
  12. Yelsew

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    Where is the Calvinist who knows anything about heaven and does not have to ask foolish questions?
     
  13. Johnv

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    Heheh, can God make a rock so big, even he can't move it?
    What do the two questions have in common? They're not questions that are really relevant to faith, but they're amusing and intersting questions, nonetheless.
     
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    It is a relevent question in that it speaks to the contradictory nature of arminian doctrine.

    The Calvinist says that man has free-will, but that it is bound to a sinful nature ( :mad: ) . Arminians insist that the will cannot be bound in such a way.

    However, in Heaven, the say, the will is bound to the new, sinless, nature ( [​IMG] ) . It is a fair question to ask concerning this contradiciton.
     
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    Yes! Believer will have a free will in heaven! Believer shall be FREE from sin!

    Unbelievers have NO freewill in hell! Because they are bondage with sins for forever and ever!

    In Christ
    Rev. 22:20 - Amen!
     
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    The Lord don't ask his children to accept him in their heart.He coms in any way when he regenerates the child of grace.He don't need our acceptence with the sinfull carnal mind we have.Our Minds are a enimity.The lord regenerates us because we are INCABLE OF IMPARTING ANY SPIRITUAL LIFE to ward our selves.When The Lord does regenerate he gives us a borne down heart soul and mind along with a begging and prayerfull heart.Something we could never givew ourselves.Their are so much unedification of the work of the Father ,the Son and the Holy Spirit here on this web site and all over the world.It is disturbing knowing that such will attribute to a great apostacy.


     
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    Elder Hassel understood it well.
    at http://www.primitivebaptist.org/writers/hassell/articles/great_apostacy.htm


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    Prove it!
     

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