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William Cohen calls for gays in military.

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by El_Guero, Jan 2, 2007.

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  1. Martin

    Martin Active Member

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    ==How am I wrong?
     
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    Good cover, maybe. The big deal is that there is a good deal of self-loathing in suppressed homosexuals, which often erupts in violence. Guys who are truly heterosexual are much less likely to attack homosexuals.
     
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  3. Filmproducer

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    What on earth are you talking about? What issues? where on earth did I claim that homosexual acts are proper? In fact when did I say anything about homosexuality at all? All I did was ask for clarification on what "godly anger" constitutes. I was asking if you meant murdering a homosexual who comes on to you, as you have said in previous posts? I for one do not think that is godly anger, and before I jumped to a conclusion I figured it would be better to ask. Excuse me for trying to be polite. :rolleyes:
     
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    You do not know anything about the military.
     
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    I am talking about the law(s) of God.

    Why are you defending homosexuality?

    Why are you trying to defend homosexuality by making God and His laws that I support look suspect?



     
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    Is ‘bashing’ sub-Christian?

    Wednesday, Dec 27, 2006
    By Mark Coppenger

    EVANSTON, Ill. (BP)--Recently, my Apologetics in Contemporary Ministry class was turning through the premier issue of Salvo, published by the folks at Touchstone. Salvo is a hard-hitting publication, one designed to discomfit sub-Christian and anti-Christian ideologies arrayed against “the faith once for all delivered to the saints.”

    The magazine featured some carefully crafted mock advertisements. One invited people to the “Church of Darwin.” Another parodied PETA with a pitch for PETI (“People for the Ethical Treatment of Insects”). Most of these ads performed the classic “reduction to absurdity,” drawing out the embarrassing implications of an opponents’ stance –- “If he had his way, look what sort of craziness he’d get us into!”

    In the course of our discussion, a student said he would be reluctant to pass the magazine on to a non-believer since some of the material could be seen as “bashing,” so I asked whether “bashing” (as in “gay-bashing” and “Bush-bashing”) was a bad thing, per se. What was bashing anyway?


    http://www.bpnews.net/bpcolumn.asp?ID=2495
     
  7. Filmproducer

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    :confused: huh? I already pointed out I didn't say one iota about homosexuality one way or another. I hardly call that defending anything. I am not trying to make you look suspect, I was just asking for clarification. I get it you are talking about the laws of God, however, that does not DEFINE godly anger. Is murder godly anger? Is assault godly anger? Is putting a person in their place by explaining why homosexuality is wrong godly anger? What is it exactly? :BangHead:
     
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    The thread is about a former defense secretary stating that the homosexual lifestyle should be forced upon soldiers in our military.

    If homosexuality was not what you were defending, then you were definitely confused.

     
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    Defending homosexuality is definitely wrong.



     
  11. Filmproducer

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    No, my friend, you seem confused. I know what the thread is about, but I just was asking for clarification of YOUR POST. I do not think the homosexual lifestyle should be forced on anyone, including our soldiers. However, I hardly think the "don't ask, don't tell" policy is forcing the lifestyle on others, nor do I think the military acknowledging the fact there are ALREADY gay people in the military is going to force a lifestyle on our soldiers. What one does in their bedroom with another consenting adult is their business, and it is between them and God. Does this mean I do not think homosexuality is not a sin? NO, it is, but is no greater than any other sin. In that same manner I do not think it is godly to kill homosexuals for their sins. Two wrongs never make a right.
     
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    ==I am not defending homosexuality. Maybe you are not reading my replies?

    I said:
    "Since our military contains many fornicators, adulterers, drunks, and porn addicts, among other things, why pick on the homosexuals? Honestly folks if we are going to promote kicking gays out of the military we must also promote kicking out the other immoral people."

    Does that sound like I am defending homosexuals? Or maybe you are also accusing me of defending fornicators, adulterers, drunks, and porn addicts?

    So, here, you are wrong.

    Now,


    So, yet again, I ask you the "same" question...how am I wrong?
     
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    At least you are moving from confusion and obsfucation to clarification . . .

    There is no reason why a soldier defending your freedom while you are nice and safe should have to worry about the sexual orientation of the person in the shower beside him (or her).

    No reason . . .

    And it is against God and His law.

     
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    Let me get this straight [no pun intended] . . . you are just one of the many folks attacking my defense of soldiers to be able to live free from fear when taking a shower . . .

    Then what are you defending?

     
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    The condoning of killing of homosexuals on any christian board is tragic.
     
  16. Filmproducer

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    My thoughts exactly!
     
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    ==Ok, I think we are having a breakdown of communication here. Let me, once again, ask this question...how am I wrong?
     
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    Obfuscate . . .

    If that is your best defense of homosexuality being admitted into the military, you do not have much of a defense.

    I do not condone the murder of anyone, but the defense of a soldier is important to someone that has defended your freedom to breathe. Soldiers should not have to worry about taking a shower. They just should not.

    Not only is it currently wrong (US law & the Laws of God), it should stay wrong within the military. Soldiers sacrifice a lot to defend us, they should not be subjected to the political agenda of a few. They should not feel threatened by the deviant sin of homosexuality.

    And you would willingly sell out those that so proudly defend you . . . Sleep well - they will not sleep so well, just so that you can.

     
  19. El_Guero

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    I am not wrong in this.

    In this thread you have attacked my position - you chose to engage the discussion. You have defended your position. In a thread about the sin of homosexuality, what are you defending?

    You also spoke about things that you know absolutely nothing about - the military.

    The military routinely kicks out
    Maybe you should serve a tour of duty in a combat unit . . . Then you might appreciate that soldiers deserve the right to not fear taking a shower.



     
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    Who has defended homosexuality in this discussion, Wayne?

    Regards,
    BiR
     
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