Featured Women are supposed to submit to men(?) such as these?

I think you are reading these passages with the honesty that at the very least demands that we not be quick to dismiss submission, or staying married, too quickly.

This is why I think we must be careful about advising against submission, or advising divorce. Paul's teaching, at surface level seems to be for a wife to seek to win her husband by her Christ-like demeanor, even in difficult situations.

It does seem that Jesus gives an exception for adultery, and Paul in Cor. gives an exception for abandonment. (Ie, if you husband leaves you, you are no longer bound to him...)

But some take this and say if a husband is emotionally disconnected then he has "abandoned" his wife spiritually...I don't really think that's what Paul is talking about.

Paul's greatest

 

I hope I've responded where you can read...I did it conversationally and in red. My only goal is in helping women see that being submissive does not equate with being a doormat, to never having an opinion or having a say, or allowing a man to set your path in life and you having to follow it. That simply is not what God meant when he instructed Paul to pen this passage of scripture.

 

The passages about wives submitting to their husbands are coupled with commands to men to love their wives as Christ loved the Church. This does not just mean that he his willing to take a bullet for her, but that every day He should be willing to give himself for her well-being. The two go together. If one spouse does not follow his or her part, the other one does not have an obligation to follow the other side. Discernment is key in a difficult situation for resolution.

Any "commands" that a husband gives a wife should be done out of pure love for her well-being. I would say most "commands" should be in the form of polite requests with the implication that the husband is perfectly willing to do the task himself if his wife cannot complete the request. She is not a slave or doormat. The husband is to treat his wife like a "weaker vessel":

1Pe 3:7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

The "weaker vessel" here carries an idea similar to Paul's analogy in Romans 9 about "vessels for honorable use" and "vessels for common use."
The husband is like a "vessel for common use": a strong holding container made of iron or thick clay that can take a beating. It has many uses primarily geared toward work and is intended to get dirty and dented.
The wife is like a "vessel for honorable use": a weak vase of great value intended to be displayed on a shelf for wonder and awe. It is rare and priceless, but can also break easily.

The husband should treat his wife with honor, being careful not to break her. If the husband is careless and treats the wife as a "vessel for common use," he risks breaking her and destroying a priceless treasure.

 

If the sin or wrongdoing of one person ever justifies another to fail to do that which is right then apparently this is the only case..... marriage. This is simply NOT at ALL true. How would you justify this in light of Paul's commands to the wife of an un-believing husband? Obviously, he is in no way (inasmuch as he is not even saved) "doing his part". Did Paul instruct the wife to act in any way she feels? Thankfully, as for me and my house...we will answer for our own actions without appealling to the excuse that someone else was wrong too.

This sounds too conveniently lumped together, you well know that Rom 9: Written by Paul, To the Romans, is about election to cross-reference something by Peter in a general epistle...to all Christians....on the subject of marriage. I am sorry nothing doing....And I quote your BRILLIANT book: "Context is King"

Provided she is a Proverbs 31 woman yes...Pro 31:10 ¶ Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price [is] far above rubies.

Provided she despises the God-honoring doctrines of submission...no...: Pro 21:9 [It is] better to dwell in a corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman in a wide house.


Out of sheer curiosity: How does one have a democracy in a counsel of two?? I mean, mathematically speaking....

The BEST teaching my wife and I have ever received on these topics is from Elizabeth George... In her book: A Woman After God's Own Heart

 

When it comes to marital seperation, I found this site that (as far as I am concerned) seems to answer just about any questions you might have.

http://cafebiblia.com/?p=98

 

yes, the wife is to be submissive to her husband, as that fulfills scripture, BUT, cannot be taken in absolute sense though, as if she submits to what violates sinning and disobedient to god...

In those specific cases, believe higher submission is to her husband Jesus, not her earthly one!

 

I agree that abuse should never happen, there is no justification for it. A woman who is being physically abused should immediately leave, seek help from her church and call the police. Standing there and silently "taking it" is also wrong.

Once again, mistreating your spouse is decidedly wrong, I don't think anyone on BB would ever say otherwise. Where we no longer see eye to eye is our response. A husband being a jerk and demanding is mistreating you, but not abusing you. He is abusing his authority over you. I believe that women (because we're just that dual cool) can do both. First we lovingly point out the error of his ways, and then we submit to his authority. For example: My husband and I did not always agree on our Republican Nominee. We had civil discussions, and lovingly disagreed. But had he pulled rank and told me to vote for the person he wanted, I would have done it. I might not have liked it, but I would obey.

I would contend that submission is physical as well as heart,
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G5293&t=KJV
If I am to submit to my husband, as a soldier is to submit to a military general... I feel confident in saying that physical action is absolutely a part of it. If you use it in the non-military sense - action is still a part of it. How else can you voluntarily give in or cooperate?
As for the heart... Eph 5:22 uses the same word for submit as Col 3:18, only it goes a little further in telling us as unto the Lord God wants us to follow him not only in actions but in heart as well. We all know what it feels like to receive an insincere apology. All talk (action) but no heart, and who really wants that?

As his sister in Christ I should help him to see the error of his ways, then as his wife obey. Yes I can give him my opinion and input, but once all of that is said and done... My job is to show him where he errors, the Holy Spirit is left the job of convicting him. I agree that a husband who seeks out his wife's opinion does so out of love and respect. My husband has asked me for my opinion on numerous occassions (big and small) and I love it when he does. I fix his favorite meals out of love, sometimes I put on makeup for him before he comes home (9am). When I do these things I love to hear him thank/praise me for doing them. It encourages me to continue. Just as praising our husbands when they do something we enjoy encourages them to continue also.
Oh, and as for your SWAT analogy... They do have SWAT leaders
http://ntoa.org/site/swat-management/swat-team-leader-development-5-days.html
And in most instances (riot control being an exception) they go in single file, minimizing the amount of men left as open targets. The man in front or the "point man" is responsible for entering unknown rooms first. I know it was just an example, but I personally found it to not be a very good one. I did however get your point.

Husbands and Wives have responsibilities, but they are not the same ones. Our very reason for exsistence shows this.
Gen 2:18 And the LORD God said, [It is] not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
We are responsible for helping our husbands

1Cr 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God.
A husband is responsible for taking headship in his marriage. Which means that one day he will have to give an account for how he lead.

1Ti 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel. The head of the household (the husband) is responsible for providing for his family.

When it comes to husbands and wives I believe they are one and the same as I have pointed out in sections above.

I am not excusing a husband mistreating his wife. What I am saying is that we can help make their lives easier (the whole help meet thing). Compare it to.... Women can help (not completely remove) mens lustful thoughts by not running around in skimpy clothing
I too am only trying to show what a submissive woman looks like. If only we agreed whole-heartedly... we'd be force to reckon with.