Women in the pastorate and pulpit...

Here is what the Bible says..................

The Bible teaches that God is not a respecter of persons, and He will use any and all who will yield to Him, regardless of race, age, or sex.

Galatians 3:28 - "...neither male nor female...for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."

Acts 10:34 - "...God is no respecter of persons...."

Numbers 11:29, "Would God that all the Lord's people were prophets, and that the Lord would put His spirit upon them!"

Mark 16:15, "Preach the Gospel," is to ALL believers, and to all the church of Jesus Christ. The command to "preach the Gospel" is to both male and female.

Acts 5:39, "If it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God."

1 Cor. 11:5, "For every woman that prayeth or prophesieth...."

DEBORAH - Judges 4:4-5. Deborah was a Judge for both civil and criminal cases. The children of Israel came to her for judgment. She was the chief ruler of Israel for 40 years, giving orders to the Generals and all the army. She did the work of an evangelist, prophetess, Judge, and a preacher. God gave her authority over the mighty (Judges 5:13).

MIRIAM - Exodus 15:20; Numbers 12:1; Micah 6:4. She was a Prophetess and a Song Leader in Israel.

HULDAH - 2 Kings 22:14. Five men went to Sister Huldah and communed with her. She spoke to a congregation of men concerning the book of the Law. A female preached to a man's congregation, and her message was taken to the nation and produced a revival.

MAHER-SHALAL-HASH-BAZ'S MOTHER - Isaiah 8:3. She was a prophetess.

Anna - Luke 2:36-38. She must have prophesied in church, because she did not depart from the temple.

Phillip had 4 daughters who prophesied. Acts 21:9.

Priscilla assisted Paul in his revival meeting and even taught Apollos in the way of the Lord more perfectly.

Phebe - Romans 16:1-2. Paul commended Phebe to the Church at Rome and requested that they assist her in her business. She was one of Paul's assistants in the work of the Lord and delivered the Book of Romans to the people from the hand of Paul.

1 Cor. 14: 34-35 does not say anything about women preachers. If Paul intended this verse as a general rule to bar all women from speaking in church, then they cannot teach Sunday School, testify, pray, prophesy, sing, or even get saved, and this would contradict the rest of the Bible (Acts 2:4; Acts 2:16-18).

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Barbara Brown Taylor is an amazing writer, and I have heard her preach a few times as well.

 

The bible forbids women pastors, in no uncertain terms. I will not disgrace scripture by dragging it thru this mud. Praise God for obedient Churches.

 

Please provide reference to this no uncertain term of forbiding women as pastors.

 

Have things changed recently?

Not long ago you wrote:

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Who determines which is false and rebellious. I can say yours is false and rebellious.

 

Reason, and scripture and lack of personal agenda. Much like those who ignore that Scripture does not provide for women pastors in the biblical qualifications.

 

1 Timothy 3:1-7 but you know this.

 

I disagree with your interpretation here.

 

Thanks Crabtownboy.

 

Reason, whose reason? What about an unreasonable person? I don't have a personal agenda. I'm male, and my wife is in no way interested in pastoring. My children are too young so I do not know about them yet. Scripture shows women working in that function throughout the Old and New Testaments.

 

There is no interpretation. It's pretty straight forward. Chapter 2 has further prohibitions. Those are straight forward as well. If you can justify women preachers, than you can justify any manner of unGodliness.

 

It is interpretation. In both 1 Corinthians and 1Timothy 2 Paul speaks of womens clothing and dress then speaks of womens silence. I already quoted W.A. Criswell's stance on the 1 Corinthian passage and I quoted another commentator about Timothy and he states the same. The silence is not that women should not prophesy, preach, etc. It is they should not wear distracting clothing, or speak out of turn causing distractions. Dr. Brown of Southwest Baptist University states:

" Churches were associated with the worship of Aphrodite, the goddess of love. Women had an important part in this fertility cult. Every 'respectable' woman of this region was expected to render at least two days of service as a religious prostitute. The manner of dress and the way they fixed thier hair...characterized the courtesans who taught and practiced their fertility rituals as a way to be joined with the goddess. Women converts from these practices (which also included their getting worked up into ecstatic utterances) were to unlearn what they had been teaching by being quiet and listening. (See Citation)

Women are cautioned not to appear to be like these seductive and controlling women. This is not justification. Women in the pastorate is not ungodly.

Citation: Autry Brown, Word and Way Missouri Baptist Convention March 25, 1993

 

Some don't want women in the pulpit because we wouldn't have anyone to send abroad as missionaries where their lives were in greater danger as they "preached" the gospel and "taught" the scriptures and "led" people in worshipof God.

Here am I, Lord. Send her!

Cheers,

Jim

 

And even John Calvin in the 1500s recognized that women's roles varied with time and culture:

"Of the second sort are . . . the prohibition of Paul, that women should not teach in the Church, and the like; . . . . these things . . . ought to be applied to the edification of the Church, with a variety suitable to the manners of each age and nation, therefore, as the benefit of the Church shall require, it will be right to change and abolish former regulations, and to institute new ones." ---John Calvin, Institutes, vol. 4, ch. 10, sec. 29-30

 

It is not my interpretation. It is clear and without doubt.

 

I am sure it is very clear to you. I see this in a different light.