women teachers

Women Ministering by Scot McKnight.

The website Christians for Biblical Equality, suggested by another person in a previous post of this thread, has a newsletter and several articles about gender issues for evangelicals.

...Bob

 

Ann...seriously...we are not ignoring Scripture. We are not tossing it. We are not bending it. We are not looking for loopholes. If we are, may we be judged accordingly. But we are seeking to be faithful to the Bible and grace. In fact, I was staunchly against female leadership until I was convicted otherwise through much theological study and prayer.

Obviously, since I believe it to be this way, I implicitly believe the other side is wrong, but I'm not sitting here calling you ignorant or dishonest or unbelievers or anything else. We can still learn from each other and be counted as brothers and sisters in Christ. Differences, even profound ones, can exist.

 

This church is not disobeying according to its biblical interpretation. They can disagree with you or I and still be among the faithful. This issue is not so cut and dry. We have to interpret the Bible after reading...not doing so is dangerous.

Ding, ding, ding - there's the condescension meter.

Great thoughts, as always. I especially appreciate the reference to the effects from the fall. Just because it was pronounced that patriarchy was an effect of the fall does not mean it must stay that way. In fact, as part of the Kingdom, we are pressing to overcome the effects of the fall, which will one day be completed.

Please don't make these statements. They are nothing if not divisive. You are talking to someone who obviously is committed to being faithful. If we differ, it's not simply because of dishonesty or rebellion.

The fact that no woman was part of the 12 hardly constitutes biblical proof of any sort. It is cultural, not normative.

 

Nope. Wrong again. That's the you don't know what you're talking about meter. Congrats. :thumbsup:

Whenever anyone who is a believer mocks someone for adhering to Scripture, reading Scripture, then they're going to hear what I've said. You included. And he earned it.

That you think defending and rebuking one for this is condescending is hilarious!

That you can't see calling one's behavior shameful for mocking the Word of God, and readers thereof, is in itself shameful.

Sometimes you gotta know when to rebuke, and sometimes you gotta know when to not say a word. You need to learn both. :wavey:

 

Thank you for the explaination.
The context is on submission and authority and how it is to be honored. What we know is that a woman can prophesy, but she cannot do it in the church as a regular gathering where men are present;
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

This passage in chapter 14 is dealing with the actual church coming together and women are not permitted to hold the position to speak.

 

No one is faithful when they are in disobedience and just because someone decides to interpret instead of obeying they do not get a get out of jail card. They are still unfaithful.

 

I agree. The Lord never gave instructions to the church because if culture. Those who claim this have turned off their brain. First the church was behind closed doors. The world would not know or care what the did. Second the Lord is never subject to culture. The culture is however subject to Him.

 

Yup.


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And that is your right. I think I'd pick the Biblical one.

I'd rather be taught by someone who may need a little help every now and then, but is obedient and takes God's Word seriously.

 

God is the one who declared that women are not to teach men. I'll leave the consequences of that declaration up to Him.

It has nothing to do with being gifted or not being gifted. It has to do with whether or not you're going to go by what God says.

Since when are we to determine truth by majority vote?

 

Charles Spurgeon preaching from Romans 16 (v. 3 "Priscilla and Aquila"):

 

Let's hear it for Charles Spurgeon.



...Bob

 

They ARE obeying. Believe it or not, some really feel the Spirit leading them to this position. And it comes after much study and prayer.

 

Bob, you've got the sillies! :laugh:

 

Its a snow day here in Kentucky.



...Bob

 

Could it be?
A lady teacher of a co-ed class at Johnson Ferry Baptist of Marietta (pastored by the current President of the Southern Baptist Convention:thumbs