Women Teaching Men

Ann, that proves nothing ... and after all the books approved by the Catholic council were all written by men ... and those voting were all men. Kind of a built in bias there IMHO. There were books written by women I am told, but they were suppressed by men.

Also, in their culture women were not allowed much if any freedom, so we cannot expect much sympathy for women by NT men ... or OT men for either.

Anyway, the women were home taking care of the kids. Someone had to do so.

Junia, who definitely was a woman, has been called an apostle by some. Of course, again, the Catholic priests would never accept anything she wrote as scripture.

Junia was a woman's name. It was only centuries later that there was a male name in the Roman world that comes even close to that spelling ... and it was different.

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This is what it all boils down to folks. A contempt for the Bible. He says it right here that the Bible has "bias". So much for the authority of Scripture.

 

If they had bias then the resulting books were chosen according to their bias. If those books were chosen according to their bias, then they must be biased in their favor. It boils down to the Bible being biased.

 

My friend. If a book is built on a presupposition, then its biased.

 

Do you accept the Catholic canon or the Protestant canon? Why do you follow one but not the other?

No, the monks, priests, etc. all men who voted on the canon probably would not have accepted a book written by a woman simply because she was a woman ... a lesser being in their view ... after all, in their view, women brought sin into the world and caused the fall of Adam.

J

That is one interpretation, but from my research the majority of scholars and experts in the language do not agree with you.

 

My friend. "apostolic succession" is not biblical

 

Giving a testimony and teaching are two different things.The women did not go and teach anyone anything. A bit if honesty is needed here.

 

There is actually better documentation than that regarding women speaking in church, and being in leadership...

http://www.bible.com/bibleanswers_result.php?id=141

 

Yes, take a look the disparate attitudes expressed with regard to the Scripture noted in the OP:




Spurgeon: it's like me bearing God's message to this congregation

Annsni: it's like me telling hubby the toilet's clogged



Spurgeon: Did ever man preach a better sermon than this woman preached? Had ever minister a more weighty text than this Magdalene had to handle

Mandy: she did not teach anyone anything, merely gave a testimony



Spurgeon: Mary, once a demoniac, becomes a preacher to preachers! I dub her Doctor of Divinity, indeed, for she has to instruct these mightiest of messengers in the faith!

Doulos: it was just testimony, not equivalent to teaching



Spurgeon: Mary Magdalene was made to do, alone, what a company of angels had been made to do before—to proclaim another step in the Savior’s pathway to redemption!

Matt: just a message relayer, Jesus was simply utilizing the woman's strength of gossip to his advantage!




Quite a contrast. :tear:

 

Yes. Quite A contrast indeed.

And its interesting that its men on this thread who are sharing the scriptures that can set the women free...yet the women want no part of it. Even to the point of ignoring Gods scriptures that make it so clear.

 

My friend. It's not about support. It's about scripture. If you are going to be wrong, at least be wrong in scripture and not your own feelings or reasoning.

 

I vehemently disagree with most on this subject here, and yet I would not venture to say any of them have "contempt" for the Bible. They may be misguided and may be misinterpreting it, but they are following what they believe the Bible says.

I think we need to be careful how we bring subjects like this up. We need to be theologically minded and have all of our views bathed in Scripture as best as it can be interpreted.

There are going to be those who oppose women in leadership or equality in marriage, just like there were once those who believed slavery was okay and intermarriage wrong. Their voice will get smaller and weaker until anyone who believes it wouldn't dare mention it, just like any who believe slavery is okay wouldn't dare voice it these days.