Word of advice

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  1. JamesBell

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    Just a word of advice to everyone here:
    Stop worrying so much about President Bush! If you want to debate this policy or that decision, then please… go ahead. But, if you’re going to simply talk about whether or not you like George W. Bush, there is no point.

    Bush won election in 2000 and he won again in 2004. He cannot be elected again. Thus, both the left and the right is wasting time debating the merits of Bush as POTUS. Like I said, if you take issue with something he is doing, debate that on its own merits. However, using everything to simply prove your love or hate for the man is a practice in futility. While I’m talking about the subject, I guess I should add in… if you are pushing for impeachment, you can give up now. There are no claims serious enough to bring about impeachment in the US House. The GOP majority would not vote to impeach for anything trivial, and certainly not for something that most Republicans support. You may get revenge for the impeachment of Clinton one day, but it will not be with this President. He won, you can’t change it. Spend your time looking for a good candidate for 08. Hill/Bill can’t win. Republicans, I suggest doing the same thing. So far, there are no candidates that are jumping to the top. Condi can’t win the nomination, the two front runners are closet liberals, there is some serious dirt on Senator Allen, and a governor of Massachusetts is going to have a hard time winning as a Republican.

    Let’s all try to make things better, debate the issues, look for the next POTUS, and let the past elections stay in the past.

    OK, I know this a HUGE waste of time. Nobody will listen to what I’ve said, but I have been wanting to say it, and now I have.
     
  2. Ed Edwards

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    We can loan the Republicans Stoops.
    Stoops can do anything :D
     
  3. Joseph_Botwinick

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    How I would love to agree with you here...but I can't. Not only can Hillary win in 08, but I believe that short of her party going absolutely stark raving lunatic mad like they did last year, she will win in 08. All she has to do is turn one or two Red States and she is in. Further, the GOP will be very weak in 08 with no really good candidates or even an incumbent waiting in the wings.

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  4. KenH

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    I totally disagree. I don't think Condoleezza will run(unless our draft effort actually works) but I think if she did run she would not only win the GOP nomination but become the first woman and the first African-American president of these United States.

    http://americansforrice.com
     
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    To democrat pols, it's all about revenge. The issues don't matter nearly as much as getting back at Republicans for the impeachment of Clinton.

    Since impeachment is their ultimate goal and they can't get there without continuously demonizing Bush, the slams and slurs and accusations will continue. Nothing else matters.

    They'd sacrifice a few thousand casualties here at home to achieve their goals. The goal is handcuff Bush to hinder his efforts at fighting the War on Terror and impeach for those efforts.

    If we do have a terrorist attack here, they'll blame him for not doing enough and try to impeach him for that.
     
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    How I would love to agree with you here...but I can't. Not only can Hillary win in 08, but I believe that short of her party going absolutely stark raving lunatic mad like they did last year, she will win in 08. All she has to do is turn one or two Red States and she is in. Further, the GOP will be very weak in 08 with no really good candidates or even an incumbent waiting in the wings.

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    </font>[/QUOTE]Condi won't run. Hillary will and unfortunately she will likely win. Only one red state needs to turn.
     
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    This is assuming no blue states will turn.
     
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    Honestly, though, what is the likelihood of a blue state turning?
     
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    Not much in the news that would induce them to change, is there?
     
  10. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Hillary understands the strategies her husband used at the advice of his advisor Dick Morris: "Campaign from the center, govern from the left".

    One state is all she needs to convince that she is a moderate. The only thing that could stop Hillary now is the looney left of her own party.

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    Joseph, Zell Miller is the best Republican I know of (ya, I know) [​IMG]

    Hillary will definitely take it in '08.

    Condi isn't "assertive" enough and she looks too much like a kindergarten teacher.

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  12. StefanM

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    Like it or not, Hillary Clinton is our next president.
     
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    One boon to the Reds - with all the focus on Bush's illegal wiretapping, Alito has been moved to the backburner by the Blues. The hearing starts in January - will he sail through while everyone is preoccupied with Snoopgate?
     
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    I think he'll be confirmed after a bit of resistance. The Dems won't want to be seen as obstructionist right now because it isn't as politically helpful, but to keep from alienating some of their base, they'll need to give some token resistance. Other than that, all they have to do is basically to sit on their hands until they gain some seats in 06 and the presidency in 08. They'll attack Bush on the abuse of power issue and Iraq, topics which will likely gain them support from voters, instead of on Alito (read: Abortion), which will only polarize the voters.
     
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    If we get the voter ID law enacted in Wisconsin (either thru the normal process or a constitutional amendment) before 2008, that would make at least one. Kerry definitely carried Wisconsin in 2004 because of Democrat vote fraud (as well as things like Democrats slashing the tires of Republican get-out-the-vote vans the night before the election), and Gore probably did in 2000 as well, although that margin was a bit wider so it's less conclusive.
     
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    Which is why I probably won't vote for POTUS next time. Hopefully I'll be raptured before I must choose between apathy or the lesser of two evils. :D
     
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    You will not be raptured. You'll likely die a natural death like most of us. Of course, not until you're an old woman, so you've got, what, another 50 or so years left???

    Oh, and Hillary won't be the next POTUS.
     
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    I suspect the choice might
    be between apathy and the eviler of
    two lessers [​IMG]
     
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    Wow, I agree with all this. McCain, one of your closet libs, but is also pretty much nuts. I fear him more than hillary.
     
  20. Joseph_Botwinick

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    I think you are a bit overconfident.

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