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Featured Word Study G5500, cheirotoneō

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Van, Aug 12, 2014.

  1. Rippon

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    You go back and forth --claim and then denial --claim and denial.

    You're saying you do "objective and unbiased word studies." Then you state that you never said such a thing. Now you are back with the same assertion. Make up your mind Van.
     
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    Here we have a compound word, literally meaning hand stretching. But the word is used to indicate taking a vote by a show of hands to select someone for something.

    Acts 14:23, When they had appointed elders for them in every church, having prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord in whom they had believed.

    Here, this rendering misses the information of how the elders were selected, i.e. by a show of hands, a vote of the members. A far more complete translation would read, When they had selected elders for them by a show of hands in every church, having prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord in whom they had believed.

    2 Corinthians 8:19 and not only this, but he has also been appointed by the churches to travel with us in this gracious work, which is being administered by us for the glory of the Lord Himself, and to show our readiness,

    Again the vote is obliterated in the rendering, whereas a literal translation would read, “but he has also been selected by a show of hands by the churches….”

    Word Studies bring to light where versions hit the mark and where they miss the mark.
    The idea is not to quibble over this word or that word, but to bring to light that we can grow more aware of God’s Word by striving to do objective and unbiased word studies.
     
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    Van, you are sounding rather robotic. It's a reminder of the old automatic redials.
     
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    Yet another Van bashing post, having no context concerning the topic.
     
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    "Here we have a compund word..."

    Van, the reason you sound robotic is that you repeat the same old mantra so many times. You said your same identical piece in posts 1, 36, 53, 60 and 62. Nothing orginal to say Van?
     
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    Yet another Van bashing post, having no context concerning the topic.
     
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    No context? You have repeated your OP four times over. Can't you think of anything original to say?

    Subjective and biased words studies can cloud one's mind about the meaning of God's Word.
     
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    Yes, subjective and biased word studied, or subjective and biased commentary on the value and merit of word studies can cloud one's mind.

    Many churches and schools teach word study as a method to grow in knowledge of God's Word.
     
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    Some studies are a striving after the wind. See the vanity explored in Ecclesiastes.
     
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    Yes, subjective and biased word studied, or subjective and biased commentary on the value and merit of word studies can cloud one's mind.

    Many churches and schools teach word study as a method to grow in knowledge of God's Word.

    Some word study commentary is striving after the wind. A warm wind. :)
     
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    You have done both.
     
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    Word studies bring to light new insights from the word of God.
     
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    One of the disagreements within churches is "who selects the elders?" The top down, I am holier than thou, folks want to choose who serves, and at the other end of the spectrum are the "priesthood of believers" folks who believe folks are called to church leadership positions through the membership as influenced by the Holy Spirit. One claim, Elders were appointed, top down, by Paul and others, but deacons were elected, seems challenged by using a more literal translation of Acts 14:23.
     
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