Words out of Our Mouth

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  1. TheOliveBranch

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    Has anyone ever seen the tract entitled "Minced Oathes"?

    I was wondering how serious we should take those words that come out of the mouth, the words that are considered "dirty". And if James 3:9-10 is referring to even the "minced oathes" often said by many Baptists, even here on the board.
     
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    I have not seen this tract; I would like to know
    more.

    I have a major hangup about such things and ad-
    mit that I pity believers who use such language.

    As a very young, much more mouthy woman, I
    attempted an experiment. My voice has several
    octaves, so I can dip into fairly low levels. One
    day, once again, my mother said, as an oath,
    "Oh, lord!" I answered her, in my deepest boom-
    ing voice, "YES???" She was offended. She felt
    like I was mocking our Lord. I responded, "When
    you call upon Him, don't you want Him to answer?"

    My lame attempt was to get the point across: this
    use of "lord,' in my opinion, is wrong. It didn't
    work. 8o)

    So what about when I say, "Oh, momma!" Am I
    less guilty? Or "good grief" or, especially,
    "Momma Mia." What is acceptable to all ears
    and consciences?

    Maybe "Oh, shucks!" In all my own research, this
    is the only mild oath with no baggage attached.
     
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    Main Entry: 1shuck
    Pronunciation: 'sh&k
    Function: noun
    Etymology: origin unknown
    Date: circa 1674
    1 : SHELL, HUSK: as a : the outer covering of a nut or of Indian corn b : the shell of an oyster or clam
    2 : something of little value -- usually used in plural often interjectionally &lt;not worth shucks&gt; &lt;shucks, it was nothing&gt;

    Matthew 5:33-37
    33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: 34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: 35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. 36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. 37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
     
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    James 3:2-13

    For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body. Behold, we put bits in the horses’ mouths, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body. Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth. Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth! And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell. For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind: But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God. Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be. Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh. Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
     
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    What is "Minced Oathes" it sounds like your trying to say "Mixed Oats" but you have a lisp.

    I'm having trouble following the meaning of this topic. Are you talking about swearing an oath? Are you talking about being offensive? What are you talking about.
     
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    Minced oaths:

    Minced oath...........Means:
    Gee...................Jesus.
    Gosh...................God.
    Oh My Gosh...........Oh My God.
    Jeepers...............Jesus.
    Golly.................God.
    Golly Gee.............God Jesus.

    That's what I was always taught.

    Minced oaths are substituting words for using God's Name in Vain.
     
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    Oh I see...that's funny... I use Gosh, Geepers, gee whiz, all the time, I had no idea that they had hidden meanings...like talking in a secret code huh?

    So all this time I've been taking the Lord's name in vain...which I purposely don't do...without knowing it?

    I'm tempted to use one of the familiar explitves that I am used to using...but the Bible says something about to he who knoweth it is sin...and now I know...oh great!
     
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    Well, don't beat yourself up over something you didn't know! :(

    Here's a link:

    http://members.truepath.com/woodpage/gleanings/minced.htm

    You can type in minced oaths
    On Google search engine & it will bring up a lot of articles!

    Lot's of Christians don't know about minced oaths...new Christians, Christians who were not brought up in Christian homes, or if it's never brought up in sermons or Sunday School, etc. I happen to be a PK, so it was a BIG ISSUE (i.e. bar of soap) when I grew up! LOL! :D
     
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    When is someone going to give us the biblical
    meanings of swear, curse, oath, etc.? I am being
    lazy, hoping someone else will bring them up.

    Wisdom Seeker, she is right. Don't get too shook.
    We are all subject to learning things later than
    we'd like at times, and our God's grace is suffi-
    cient. I think it is a good thing to be aware and
    wary of all sin and anything that is a reasonable
    facsimile of it, but we live by faith and in His
    generous grace.
     
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    We shouldn't worry too much about whether this or that is classified as swear or curse.

    Since this thread I thought about the reasons that I use any oath, minced or not.

    I often say, "Dad blame it!" Wouldn't that be the same as saying, "God d*** it?"

    Probably.

    But even if it isn't, why do I say it, or any other minced oath? I usually say it out of anger over some kind of disappointment.

    What do the Scriptures teach us? In everything give thanks... Now, I'm not saying simply substitute "God bless it!" for "God d*** it." That's no improvement. It is still God's name in vain.

    But if I were to truly give thanks, I would say nothing at all, and give thanks to God in my private devotions.

    Just thinking out loud.
     
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    I had come across a tract several years ago explaining minced oathes. I brought the topic up because several people on the board use them. After I had read about what they and any other words that we use, as "fillers", are, I was wondering if anyone else had known. James tells us of those words we use, yet we use they same mouth to speak Godly things. The book of Proverbs warns us about the use of words, and the overusage of them. Just food for thought [​IMG]
     
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    This is a new one to me!! [​IMG]

    Who decided that Gee means Jesus? ;)

    Guess, I need to get the dictionary out!

    You know what it is actually in the dictionary, but then gee also means a word of command to a horse meaning turn to the right. If I use gee then, I am going to give a command to a horse. [​IMG]

    I know that the tongue can get us into a lot of trouble and now on this board, we have to be careful of the written word. [​IMG]

    My mother used to tell me not to use "gosh" I should have listened to her ;)

    O heck, what to do...oops, another euphemism [​IMG]

    I guess I do need to make a new year's resolution to clean up my language and read my dictionary more. [​IMG]

    [ January 02, 2003, 01:15 PM: Message edited by: BettyE ]
     
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    Thanks, TheOliveBranch, for starting this topic. It will make all of us think twice before we speak/write such words.

    It is important that as Christians we set a good example for all and that others can tell we are Christians by our words.
     
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    We have always had a rule with our children,as well as for us...we do not say anything that could be questionable...like *Oh,my gosh*,etc...if it could even sound like taking God's name in vain,we do not say it.

    I'm very careful to not use any slang language,mainly because it can be used wrongly by me and can set an example of laziness of speech.

    Examples would be:
    Oh,my word....to me this is wrong
    Any names of God
    Oh,my gosh or even oh my goodness(although this would be the one we have said before)
     

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