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Would it be sin

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Judith, Dec 19, 2013.

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    Would it be sin to steal if your family is starving? By starving I do not mean hungry. I mean like those children in Ethiopia who are at deaths door.

    Would it be sin to take a life if another is threatening your family with death?

    WHY?
     
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    To steal, is to take the name of Jehovah in vain, claim you to be His. Forbidden.
    To defend the weak is a necessary evil.
     
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    Aren't dying starving children weak?
     
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    Aren't the legs of the lame unequal?
     
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    God allowed famine and will allow a huge famine in the future, and starving is part of that judgment. It is also a spiritual picture of a nation who neglects the word of God, or on the opposite end the people appoints abundance as an indication of being "more righteous" but again ignoring God. God uses famine.

    More importantly is the believer's reaction to the starving.

    Proverbs mentions that stealing to keep from starving is understood by folks. It is not a matter of greed, but of basic need. I'm not posting that it is a righteous act. It is just an act that a Biblical based society can understand and forgive.

    Lastly, the God of heaven provided for the poor of Israel by telling the farmers they were not to harvest the "corners" of their fields, but leave them behind for others in need.

    Often, heathen hearted folks have little care for others, and one of the neat prophecies that occurs in Isaiah concerns God's ultimate justice in toward the helpless who have been mistreated.


    Often folks consider this in the matter of some event such as a home invasion.

    Certainly, there are times when taking a life of another "threatening (the) family with death" is approved.

    It is also approved at times when there is no threat, but God places the enemy "asleep in your tent" (recall the tent stake nailing the king's head to the floor). Perhaps this may be considered in the act of "Lizzie Borden" if one takes that she was a subject of continual molestation.


    Assuming you are asking about the last question, and assuming the "why" is -why isn't taking the life of another at that time considered murder - then I would give this thinking.

    Rather than murder it is called justified homicide.

    It applies to any act in which your personage is threatened and you are protecting yourself and by extension family.

    It is when you are placed in a situation in which you cannot escape and have no option but to use lethal force to defend yourself.

    To use an "elementary" illustration, children on the playground of school do not have the right to defend themselves by putting their hands on someone else (fighting). However, if they are walking home and confronted with no escape available, no authority to "run" too for protection, then they have every right to defend themselves - even if it costs the life of others.

    Now, here is where it get's sticky. If that child in defending themselves continues the attack beyond the point necessary to defend themselves and one dies, they can be accountable for taking the life of another. It is called excessive force (often thought as when a policeman become to zealous in handling someone).

    Hope this helps. :)
     
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