Would packing a gun stop mass killings?

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Would packing heat dissuade mass killers from doing their evil?

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  1. Yes ....

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  3. It could result in collateral damage ....

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  1. righteousdude2

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    When liberals are asked how their versions of gun control changes would have stopped the mass killing in Roseburg last week, they draw a blank, and regurgitate the same old liberal, gun control rhetoric.

    And when conservatives support ownership of guns they claim packing a gun would dissuade or at least make such killings have a smaller body count.

    So I ask: Would packing heat dissuade mass killers from doing their evil?
     
  2. Rolfe

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    Perhaps asking the bad guys would be better...
     
  3. FollowTheWay

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    Please cite examples of when a private citizen has had a positive impact on mass killings. BTW, there were 142 school killings in the last year alone.
     
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    The Pearl, Mississippi school shooting was stopped by the vice principal Joel Myrick with a Colt .45, The Appalachian School shooting was stopped by two students with handguns. Both of the above incidents were stopped by the armed citizens threatening the shooter without firing.

    Plans to slay everyone in the Muskegon, Michigan, store and steal enough cash and jewelry to feed their “gnawing hunger for crack cocaine” fell apart for a band of would-be killers after one of their victims fought back.

    The mass church shooting in Colorado Springs was stopped by the shooter being shot by a church member with a CCW permit.

    The Santa Clara gunshop shooting in 1999 was stopped by an armed citizen after the shooter declared that he was going to kill everyone. Police found a list of intended victims in his car. Only the perpetrator, Richard Gable Stevens was shot.

    The December, 1991, Aniston, Alabama defense where a CCW holder stopped armed robbers who were herding employees, customers, and his wife into a cooler. He shot both robbers, killing one.

    July 13, 2009, in Virginia at the Golden Food Market: The gunman tried to shoot several people, was stopped by a CCW carrier.

    Just recently, in Early Texas, armed citizen Vic Stacy shot and stopped a deranged man who had just murdered two neighbors and was firing at police with a rifle. Stacy made a very long shot with his revolver, three times as far as the perpetrator was from the police officer, who had an AR-15 type rifle.

    Abraham Dickman had a history of anger against employees of the AT&T store in New York Mills, New York. On May 27th, 2010, he walked into the store with a .357 and a list of six employees. He shot the first employee, but was stopped from further attacks when Donald J. Moore, an off duty police officer who was allowed to carry his own handgun when not on duty, drew and fired his .40 caliber, killing Mr. Dickman before he could fire any more shots.

    Another off duty police officer stopped the Trolley Square shooting with his personal handgun. He stopped the killing and contained the shooter until police reinforcements arrived and ended the situation.

    The shooter, Ernesto Villagomez, entered the Players Bar and Grill and killed two people. He reloaded and was continuing to shoot when a citizen with a concealed carry permit shot him and stopped the killing.

    Kiarron Parker rammed his car into another in the church parking lot, got out and attempted to kill multiple church members. He was only able to kill one before a member of the congregation, the nephew of the lady killed, and an off duty police officer, drew his handgun and shot Parker, stopping the killing.

    Whenever a mass shooting is stopped by a gun owner there are going to be fewer victims so these stories are often under reported or not reported at all by major news outlets. And of course since self defensive gun uses do not help the agenda of gun control activists these stories will continue to be ignored.

    FBI report shows importance of armed citizens in stopping mass murder sprees: Friday, October 24, 2014 by: J. D. Heyes

     
  6. carpro

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    Depends on the courage , skill, and judgement of the one who is armed. One thing is certain beyond any doubt...being unarmed won't stop a madman with a gun. That has been proven time and time again.
     
  7. dyanmarie25

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    It could probably help decrease the number of mass shooting incidents. However, there really is no assurance that it would work effectively. If a person really wants to kill/shoot a person, he/she will definitely find a way.
     
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    A gun in the hands of someone with knowledge of it's use and of a character to wish to stop something bad from happening using said gun would stop/dissuade mass carnage, yes. But, as you see, there are so many factors in that. The character and planning the criminal has put forth or is willing to put forth into his intended crimes as well as the character and amount of commitment of the armed Samaritan to prevent or limit said crimes. None of us know what we would do in those situations but it is proven that arming good citizens has prevented and/or stopped evil from progressing.

    That said, I think guns can be substituted with other weapons from either the criminal or the Samaritan. Our society just likes to focus on guns in particular. Many heinous mass murders have occurred without the use of guns. Likewise, I'm sure many have been stopped without the use of a gun as well. Guns just make it easier... regardless of what side you are on.
     
  9. Zaac

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    Nope. Crazy isn't dissuaded by what other folks are doing.
     
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    If packing heat doesn't dissuade crazy how come crazy isn't shooting up places where armed resistance is a threat to crazy?

    Could it be that even crazy knows that a well placed shot will dissuade him for good?
     
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    Good post. You beat me to it.
     
  12. Rolfe

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    And to add to Poncho's comment, then why do so many wear body armor?
     
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    Gotta be quick on the draw around here pardner. ;)
     
  14. poncho

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    Who crazy?
     
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    Cheers.
     
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    [QUOTE="righteousdude2, So I ask: Would packing heat dissuade mass killers from doing their evil?[/QUOTE] If I was packing it would dissuade the killer from doing evil to me.
     
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    That's just it: these mass shootings aren't about killing people. They're about getting attention.

    We keep trying to place the blame on the tools, while ignoring the motivation/purpose.
     
  18. Don

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    Here's where you're wrong: crazy does not equal stupid.
     
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    Though media failed to mention it - in the Portland mall shooting a year or two back a concealed carry man had the shooter in his sights but felt it unsafe to fire - shooter saw it and ran for cover where he shot himself.
     
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    I remember that.
     

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