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  1. percho

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    " rightly dividing the word of truth?"

    If not please show from scripture, why not.

    For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith vain; ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. 1 Cor. 15:16-18

    Would it be correct to say that the above is the nail in the coffin or should we say the nail taken from the coffin that made salvation possible for men, that is the resurrection from the dead of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ?

    Was that the moment in time that salvation was made possible for man? The moment of the birth (first cause) of eternal salvation? --- And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; Hebrews 5:9

    Was the resurrection from the dead of Jesus the Christ, the grace of God that brought forth (manifested) salvation?
    For the saving grace of God was manifested to all men, Titus 2:11 YLT

    Being salvation (saved) came by the grace (the resurrection of Jesus the Christ) of God as his gift, through the faith. Eph. 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through (the) faith; and that not of yourselves: the gift of God:

    What is the faith that justified you and by which the grace (the resurrection of Jesus the Christ) of God
    could be applied to you for your salvation, that is give you life?

    But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (Faith) Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. (His Faith) For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. (Grace) Romans 5:8-10
     
  2. Revmitchell

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    I would say that the moment in time when salvation became possible was when God promised it. Unlike us His word is a sure thing and when He promises something it is always a done deal. While we as humans and an imperfect corrupted creation must always wait until the act of the promises out of our mouths begin, it is not so with God. Once He speaks it is the same as being done. There is no chance to go the other way.

    Psa_33:4 For the word of the LORD is upright, and all his work is done in faithfulness.

    Psa_105:8 He remembers his covenant forever, the word that he commanded, for a thousand generations,

    Psa_119:89 Forever, O LORD, your word is firmly fixed in the heavens.


    Psa_119:160 The sum of your word is truth, and every one of your righteous rules endures forever.


    Psa_138:2 I bow down toward your holy temple and give thanks to your name for your steadfast love and your faithfulness, for you have exalted above all things your name and your word.


    Pro_30:5 Every word of God proves true; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.
     
  3. percho

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    I agree with your statement, it mattered not what fork in the road Adam took for it had already been determined: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, 1 Peter 1:20

    Therefore: But before (the) faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that (the) faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.


    What was, the faith and when did, the faith come which removed one from being under the schoolmaster, the law and justified that one?
    How was the faith revealed?
     
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    Christ did excercise perfect faith, unlike the rest of us....

    ...but remember also that romans 3 says that the propitiation is "recieved by faith." Surely THAT faith is ours, and not just Christ's?
     

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