Would you classify John The Baptist as a fundamentalist or a Pharisee?

A gospel without repentance is no gospel at all. John preached repentance.

 

Are you really this blind to yourself?

Really? So you think you are being persecuted when people disagree with you and give their reasons then ask you to give sound reasons why you are correct?

This just lends more credence to my assessment in the other thread. You are used to telling people what they should think and having them cower at your presence.

Here, when you call someone a "Bible corrector" you get challenged... when you call it a sin for women to wear something other than your standard for them, you get challenged. Rather than providing sound, biblical answers, you have shown a tendency of getting offended then either making personal attacks or portraying yourself as a martyr (like John the Baptizer).

It is... but then again, sometimes the old children's retort has validity--- "It takes one to know one."

What you consider fundamentalism is based on extra-biblical teachings or applications of principles that have been crystalized by folks like you into laws for Christian holiness. This is not fundamentalism.

First you equate yourself with John the Baptizer and now you are the judge of who here is lost or saved?

Do you think it takes agreement with you on Bible versions or women's clothing to validate salvation?

 

How many lost are you winning each year where you live? The proof is in the fruit.

You major on things that Jesus never did. He majored on what God wanted from the beginning not the things man judges another by. You are not a fundamentalist but a true liberal. You believe what you want to believe not what Jesus taught and God commanded. Just take a simple lok at Jesus' preaching and see how the master does compared to you. See what Jesus preached on and how he dealt with people. Sometime read the gospels and see how Jesus dealt with those who were lost and then the legalists. You know the religionsists.

When you talk about pants I assume you like it when ladies wear dresses 12 feet up in the air on top of a hay pile on a truck or trailer. Is that the reason why you think women should not wear pants. Or have you never worked doing that kind of farm labor. Sometime think about what you write and consider the practicality of it. If you don't know the diference between women's pants and men then you are blind. There was a time when people didn't drive cars either. Do you drive a car? If so the Amish would claim you are a modern.

The major thing is: who's living for Jesus Christ because of your life? How many are you presently discipling according to Matthew 28:19,20? Your preaching is worthless unless you are currently discipling those in your church and training them to reach others and disciple them. When you begin to disciple those you have just led to Christ then you might begin to get a glimpse of what Jesus dealt with. I would rather be a fool for Christ than a fool for man's rules. Start preaching the Bible rather than what you have been told. If you begin to seriously study and disciple others you will come back a different man. You won't have enough hours to think the way you do.

Fig trees don't produce olives and salt water does not produce fresh water. The mouth speaks out of that which fills the heart.

If you will read the responses to your postings and see your response it is clear your mind is made up. Like someone said to Ben Franklin, "Ben, you are impossible. Your opinions have a slap in them for everyone who differs with you. They have become so expensive that nobody cares for them. Your friends find they enjoy themselves better when you are not around. You know so much that no man can tell you anything. Indeed, no man is going to try, for the effort would only lead to discomfort and hard work. So you are not likely ever to know any more then you do now, which is very little."

When you begin to consider what others are telling you then you might be able to step aside from the fundamentalist cloak and teach what the Bible says. You are not a fundamentalist. What you are simply doing is repeating the ignorance of what you have been told. A true fundamnetalist is honest with himself before God and honest with what scripture teaches. His theology is derived from the scripture. He does not read his theology into scripture. One must do exegesis not eisegesis.

Just give me one example where men or women wore britches in the scripture. If you would be true to the culture of that time and go along with what you propose to stand for then you would wear the same dress they wore. You wouldn't have to worry about lacy underwear. You might have at least an outer garment and then possibly if you had some wealth you might also wear an inner garment too.

 

Clearly Shiloh you are not going to show me from the Bible where I am wrong. You'd rather just accuse me of attacking you.

Sad, isn't it?

 

Hey, what do you know, even though Articbound was refering to my post in the youth forum, I agree with him. I also believe that when a person gets saved they will change, and you don't have to be a drunk to reach one. But, I still feel you need to be loving toward them to share Christ with them.
As for John - He was a Great Prophet/Preacher that was fundamentalistic in style, but was no way a Pharisee as he never preached Extra-Biblical rules and regulations to follow.
Here's a simple rule to live by:
IF IT'S NOT IN THE BIBLE --- DON'T PREACH IT!

 

Interesting reminders in this topic of the following
Holy Scripture. Perchance this is a message from
the Written Word of God?

2 Peter 2:10-12 (nKJV):
and especially those who walk according to the flesh
in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority.
They are presumptuous, self-willed.
They are not afraid to speak evil of dignitaries,
11 whereas angels, who are greater in power and might,
do not bring a reviling accusation against
them before the Lord.
12 But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught
and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand,
and will utterly perish in their own corruption,

Of course, I have this theory that the wisest posters
are the ones who read first then start posting.
You know, sort of get the lay of the land before brashly
jumping in like a bull in a china shop.
As usual, the pseudo-Fundamentalist is recognized by
his anti-intellectualism and anti-success stances. Anybody who is
successful in having a bunch of conversions and baptisms
must be in league with the Devil (you know, that devil that
sits around puting his paw print on the New King James Version
title page).

 

Is Christmas coming early??? We can only hope that these are his final thoughts ...

 

GO TO "THE nkjv AND its PAGAN SYMBOL" POST
IN THE BIBLE VERSIONS/TRANSLATIONS FORUM

THERE ARE SOME GOOD POSTS REGARDING THIS PAGAN SYMBOL, BUT LIKE USUAL THE FAR LEFT HAS ALREADY CLOSED THEIR MIND TO THE SUBJECT AND WILL NOT REGARD ANY PROOF OTHERWISE.

 

Still wating for Bible answers to my questions Pastor Shiloh.

 

My questions are an attack??

 

When one can't respond to Scripture they resort to personal attack. Pastor Shiloh

nuff said.

 

SHILOH,
Joh 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before [it hated] you
Joh 17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world

We are in good Company, so keep on keeping on! Please don't compromise!

 

You fear most of us don't have within us the Holy Spirit from above. I am not going to wait for an explanation of this statement as I feel it pretty self explanatory. It is also mean spirited and rude. And it definately breaks our posting rules about showing grace to others. I will now close this thread as I feel it has accomplished nothing more than an argument.
Murph

 

Could you quote the part of my post that was a personal attack??