I need brighter minds than mine to help me evaluate something. It seems God (I think) is calling to mind an experience with a particular church in regards to "closing the back door" of the church. (That means keeping the folks that profess Christ and join rather than losing them back to the world.) We moved a lot, but once were blessed living about 15 years in one place, and still have a lot of relatives there so we have kept up. We moved there in the late 80's. The church nearby was growing by leaps and bounds. The best way to describe is that it seemed to make having fun its' goal. I cannot name one person "converted" during that pastor's tenure as still walking with Jesus. I hope some are, but cannot name any. Got a new pastor. Now, this guy was also a barrel of fun, but that was not the goal of worship services. He did everything "wrong" according to all the church growth and evangelism books. He had been saved out of the bars, so while our service was blended it most definitely was different. All the sensual beat was played down, and it was very......reserved. We had been using an easy to read Bible. This guy was no KJVO, in fact he didn't really care for KJV. He did teach us the textual basis for the translations then available, and explained why he preached from the NASB. He was an ardent dyed in the wool Calvinist. We stopped the long tearful altar calls. We stopped "wooing" people to Christ. He just preached the gospel plain and simple, in church and out. He really stressed praying for the lost and telling them the gospel instead of "soul winning." He told us we would shrink dramatically in membership and attendance because those looking for an easy good time would be gone. He was right. And then, we started seeing something happen. We started seeing God work. One man who's wife and kids had gotten saved would not attend church, see the preacher, or talk about God with anyone. He was a pretty tough rounder. And then one day walking across an oilfield location he said he KNEW God was fixing to save his sorry soul. Went weak in the knees and couldn't stand--had to kneel. Long story short, got gloriously saved and went on to be a good preacher himself. We saw a lot of that sort of thing--God doing the saving rather than us doing the attracting and entertaining. Lots of those folks still walking strong. He left and we got the preacher that is still there now. Back to the attractional entertain them method. Bigger membership, yes. Bigger attendance, yes. But changed people? Nope. Many profess Christ but never overcome the old life that held them in bondage. Please give me your thoughts.