Would you like a new political party?

Discussion in 'Forum for Polls' started by UnchartedSpirit, Jun 5, 2006.

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Would You like a new political party (I mean a major major general one)

  1. No, I want to just improve and regenerate our current parties

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    16.7%
  2. Yes, I'd like to see a new party arise that seriously holds dear our values

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    61.1%
  3. Yes, I'd like a new political party: as a matter of fact, I'm want to start one...

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  4. Maybe, but I would just like to see how far it goes first

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  5. No, I don't see the point it

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  6. No, I think all parties won't ever keep a true faith anymore

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    11.1%
  1. UnchartedSpirit

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    I keep hearing the 'Right' is fleeing from 'Religuous' and likewise, I don't hear the therm 'Spiritual Left' anymore. How intriguing. Well, the republicans did arise after the decline of the Whigs...did they also have a 'religuous' lapse at the end of their race? What then, should happend for the republicans?

    (um, let me know if that poll needs anything)
     
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  2. Hope of Glory

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    I would like to see the laws changed to require a majority to win any election.
     
  3. UnchartedSpirit

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    huh? the bigger group cant get the vote? theres actually a LAW against that? since when?
     
  4. Scarlett O.

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    Read the United States Constitution....

    Specifically Article II, Section 1, second paragraph. This is what Hope of Glory is referring to.
     
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    The law only requires a plurality at the federal level, as well as most state and local elections. It makes it so that people are afraid to vote for third party candidates, because a vote for the best candidate is, in many ways, equal to a vote for the worst, so people vote for the second best.
     
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    I am not afraid to vote for a third party candidate. If there was one that was better than what we have currently, I would vote for them. Currently, there is not.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    When I was old enough to register to vote (which "back in my day" meant age 21) I registered as a member of a third party. In the past I have voted for third party candidtates in some local, state-wide, and national contests.

    I've known some Republicans that I would support and some that I would not support. I've known of some Democrats that I would support and some that I would not support. And, yes, I've known of some third party members that I would support and some that I would not support.
     
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    If a majority were required to win (local, state, or for an elector in the electoral college), I think the result would be more parties that want to stay true to certain moral principles.

    I have had some elections that I have had to abstain from voting simply because there was no difference between the candidates. But, sometimes I've had to vote for the lesser of two evils. For example, if the choice is to vote for someone who wants unlimited abortions or someone who is in favor of all but partial-birth abortions. Voting to save the lives of even those few is better than none, but still not very appealing.

    Australian rules balloting would also prevent the need for runoff elections and still give a majority vote.
     
  9. Salty

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    New York State has a fusion ballott. That means a person can run on more than one party. It is not unusual for someone to be on four or five different partys! The "official parties in NY are: A. Republician, B. Democrat, C. Independence (NY version of Perots Reformed), D. Conservative, ( http://www.cpnys.org/) WEB SITE E. Working Families (they make the Democrats look like conservatives!)
    Unofficial parties are: Green, Right to Life, Constitution (but NY Const is no longer affilitated with the National Party)

    In the past, we have also seen the on the ballott, Communist, Socialst, Socialiast Workers, Workers World, Veterans, Buchanan Reformed, Liberal, Liberaliteran, and a few others.

    Often the Conservative Party will endores the Republicains, and the Libeal Party will endorse the Democrats. Though the Cosnervative Party has been known to endorse Democrats. The Independence Party somewhat splits it endorsements.

    Two years ago, the Conservative party put up a candidate against the Democrat and (liberal) Republician. The Conservative recievced enought votes to throw the election to the Democrats. No statewide Republican has ever won an election without the support of the Conserevative Party. By voting on the Conservative Line we are letting the candidate know we expect conservative values in his vote.

    Also in 2004, I ran for State Assembly with only being on the Conservtive line. (I did not have time to get the Repbulican nod) My only oppenent was the incumbent Democrat. In spite of spending zero dollars on my campaing, I still claimed 13% :thumbs: of the vote!!!

    Finally, I WILL NOT vote for the lesser of two evils. I have made many write in votes over the years. A write in, or 3rd party vote is NEVETR wasted. You are letting the winner know where you stand.

    Salty

    ps, how many of you are going to be involved in the election this year. Lets get to work know and get in some good men who :praise: will look to the Lord for guidance.
     
  10. Magnetic Poles

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    I agree. So does President Gore! :)
     
  11. Hope of Glory

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    But, even in your example that you gave, that threw the vote to the greater of two evils. That's why reform is important. You can vote for the best candidate without that equalling a vote for the worst candidate.

    From what I've seen of what he said, he only favors changing the vote to a majority of the popular vote at the federal level (but opposes it at the local and state level) which was wisely ruled out in the Constitution.
     
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    Still in the dark

    I hate to admit this but I am minoring in Political Science (majoring in History) and I STILL feel like I am in the dark about politics. All politicians seem like crooks out to spend as much of our tax dollars as stupidly as they can. :mad:

    I thought about joining one of those watch groups that keep up with how much our government is wasting. Not long ago they bought back President Kennedy's Yacht for 3 million dollars. Why not spend that money on rebuilding New Orleans. After the hurricane in Galveston (that killed over 7,000 people) they had the area cleared and rebuilding in a matter of weeks!
     
  13. Salty

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    As far as a straight majority for President, I say keep the Electoral College. If we did away witht he College, then some 20 States would never see a presidental candidate. And in the States that they would go to, they would only visit the large cities. For example, New York City has 50% of the population of New York State.

    In fact, I would like to see the winner-take-all system changed to a proportianal vote, wether it is by congress distict, total state vote, or some other formula.

    Salty
     
  14. Hope of Glory

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    That's what I have been advocating for a long time.

    If I remember correctly, Algore wanted a simple majority for the race for president.

    I think that a majority should be required for every local and state office, and for the electors for the electoral college.

    Although I have not stated so in this thread, the way that Maine and Nebraska do the electoral college, seems more equitable.
     

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