Would you SUpport a Muslim for President of the United States?

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  1. Zaac

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    JonC, you got me to thinking in the other thread with your above statement. A lot of evangelicals cast votes for Mitt Romney and said the fact that he was a Mormon didn't mean anything in terms of being President because we are not a theocracy, etc.

    So I wonder if the same people would vote for a Muslim for President of the US? If no, why not?

    Muslims are against abortion.
    Muslims are against homosexual marriage.
    In fact, Islam, in general is ultra-conservative when compared to the things most conservatives believe.

    So if a Muslim candidate somehow became the GOP nominee, would you vote for him/her?
     
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  2. go2church

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    I would have to see the totality of the candidate. Just being against one thing or the other - in support of this or that in a generic sense doesn't help me much.

    Though a presidents religion is on the list of considerations, it isn't very high on the list. There are some extreme branches of Islam and some very mystical branches of Islam - just being Muslim doesn't really say enough.
     
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    No I wouldn't. Muslims also won't to impose sharia law whic would set this nations equality laws back 1000's of years. There would be no more women in places of leadership and they would be required to wear the clothing we see in muslim countries. You might say he couldn't do that but President Obama has proven what executive orders can do.

    Muslims also are not a peaceful people. They started the conflict now called the crusades, "Byzantium was losing considerable territory to the invading Seljuk Turks, who defeated the Byzantine Army at the battle of Manzikirt in 1071 and went on to gain control over much of Anatolia. After years of chaos and civil war, the general Alexius Comnenus seized the Byzantine throne in 1081 and consolidated control over the remaining empire as Emperor Alexius I."

    Muslims have declared jihad on all none Muslim groups we could see that occur with persecution of christian's and other groups. Do we really want to see that in our nation?
     
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    Without question...no.


    The difference between Romney and a Muslim is doctrinal and a primary distinctive being the root goal of Islam is domination of the world.

    The Office of President should not fall into the hands of one whose views have this as a goal.

    The worst Romney can be charged with is serious failure to actually study the Word of God, which can also be charged to the Muslim.


    Same reason I would not vote for a pro-choice, pro-gay, pro-special rights advocate.

    The President is the highest office of Law Enforcement Officer in the country. In Romney's career we did not see an attempt to Mormonize the Country, but we do not see the cause of world domination in Mormons.

    Again, it is a doctrinal issue. If this Muslim candidate were a nominal Muslim, like Obama is a nominal religionist obviously sympathetic to Islam, what would still be a cause for concern is...Islamic Doctrine.



    How so? Because they kill the unborn in the mother's womb by killing the mother too? Does this mean we pat abortionists on the back for not killing people who fail to submit to Islam? We wouldn't do that any more than we would pat a so-called "pro-life" advocate who bombs abortion clinics.

    How many children were never even conceived due to Islamic Doctrine?

    And as with the example of abortion clinic bombings...they put homosexuals to death.

    An irony in the election of Obama is that despite the fact he is sympathetic to Islam, and a preacher of Tolerance, many homosexuals voted for a man who has emboldened Radical Islam that is not tolerant of homosexuals, but puts then to death.

    Muslims, unlike Romney, are also against Christian Marriage, and any other kind of marriage that does not involve faithful Muslims.

    And that is because of their Doctrine, which they get through "holy writings" which take precedence over the Bible, come into direct opposition with the teachings of the Bible, and diminish the Person of Christ.

    And that the religion of Romney is also guilty of this, the fact remains that (1) it is a worldly Office, and (2) we do not see Mormons murdering people on a regular basis because they are not Mormons (any more, lol). The reason for that is due to the Rule of the Law of this Country, which can be traced to the Law of God. If Mormons began carrying out the efforts that Muslims carry out, they would be, like Radical Islam, be considered a threat to the security of this Nation.

    But they are not...that's the difference.


    Don't know where you get your information from, but the facts are clear that the higher the Muslim population, the higher the violence of any nation. Those predominately Muslim hold no tolerance for infidels, who are put to death according to their Law. Those nations such as France with a more moderate, though still high number of Muslims experience riots like those we see, the difference being...it is not a religious motivation.

    Just not sure how you come up with "ultra-conservative" out of people, who if they follow the teachings of their prophet, are murderers and use murder to coerce submission to their religion.


    Again...no.

    You have a lot of false and misleading premise in your arguments.

    This is like asking "Would you vote for a Nazi if he were to become a candidate."

    The ludicrous nature of the question makes it as such that the question, if asked, causes us to question...why?

    But we know why, don't we, Zaac.

    Tell me, where do your sympathies lie in regards to Islam? Would you vote for a devout Muslim? Something tells me you would, but you would have to answer that question for me.


    God bless.
     
  5. evangelist6589

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    How absurd! And a muslim would also want to kill off all Christians and Jews, so I am sure they'd get your vote would they not?

    Go chase a rabbit.
     
  6. matt wade

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    evangelist6589, you are jumping to a rash judgement on Zaac. Based on Zaac's previous postings, he would not vote for a Muslim.
     
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    am glad to hear that. Thanks..
     
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    I'm sorry....don't we already have one as president??:confused:
     
  9. Zaac

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    I didn't vote for him either. :laugh:
     
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    I very much protest how my words have been twisted in the original post. I said nothing like that.

    I would not care to know the faith of any candidate, and would rather not be told.
     
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    [snipped, infraction for foul language given]
     
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    Giving out rabbits randomly now? :laugh:


    And welcome back.
     
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    Yes....its the way the person conducts himself that matters. Good point.:thumbsup:
     
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    Why ask. We already have a closet Muslim, and it isn't impressing me at all. :laugh:
     
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    If he gives out rabbits, you must be spreading rabbit pellets?
     
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    Here is the first muslim candidate:

    Imam Anjem Choudary

    Pamela Geller, who organized the Garland, TX event fights back against Imam Anjem Choudary, who says she should 'face capital punishment."
     
  17. Zaac

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    Did Gellar really claim that Barack Obama is the love child of Malcolm X???
     
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    No, for a sincere and true Muslim would support the islamic agenda of taking over all nations under the banner of Allah!

    He would try to bring USA under the Muslim Law of the land...
     
  19. JonC

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    Although I don’t think it will be a fruitful discussion here, Zaac, this should have been a great topic. For me, the answer is no because if that man is faithful to his religion then I do not understand how he can support the ideologies upon which our nation was founded.
     
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    Nope. I wouldn't vote for a Muslim, and if the US ever deteriorates there, you may as well move to the UAE where nobody pays taxes.
     

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