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Would you vote for Thomas Jefferson for president?

Discussion in 'History Forum' started by NaasPreacher (C4K), Oct 26, 2003.

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  1. NaasPreacher (C4K)

    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    Inspired by the thread on Christian revisionist history. Would any of you have voted for Thomas Jefferson for president in 1800 if you had been alive? Why or why not?
     
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    No I would not have. His personal life was a mess. He was an anti-federalist, he talked one way and his politics often reflected another, he was in debt up to his eyeballs and in spite of speaking against slavery, he was a slave holder. No he wouldn't have gotten my vote.
     
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    Thinking as I do now, I would not vote for Jefferson. However, had I been in the shoes of my poor Scots-Irish backwoods ancestors, I certainly would have voted for Jefferson. The Federalists had great ideas, but they were openly elitist (as opposed to the Democratic Party of today which is controlled by closet elitists) and openly disdainful of the common man.
     
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    Yes, I would have voted for Mr. Jefferson.
     
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    This is an excellent question/topic. No, I would have voted for Adams, who was despised by both High Federalists and Republicans.
     
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  6. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Can't see me voting for Jefferson. Especailly if I were aware of his hatred for Bible Christianity. Of course, with no media back then...
     
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    Let me state the obvious. In 96 I would have voted for Adams as a continuity of Federalism (and most know how I hate big goernment; I hate pure democracy more).

    In 1800, however, I would have voted for Jefferson. Remember, he's running against Aaron Burr who was interested in setting up a kingdom (with King Aaron I). Better Jefferson than Burr.

    In 1804 he was running against Clinton from New York (deja vu?) and I'd have voted Jefferson. BTW, Clinton ran again in 08 against Madison and was VP again.

    Jefferson had a lot of baggage but remember during his brief tenure as Virginia's governor (1780-81) he wrote the statue on religious freedom that would become the basis of the First Amendment.
     
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  8. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Sadly, Dr B the "lesser of two evils" scenario is nothing new :(
     
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    Turns out that one of Jefferson's greatest accomplishments was one many folks at the time wanted to impeach him for - The Louisiana Purchase. Jefferson himself said he acted without Constitutional Authority.

    He was a man of uncommon vision. [​IMG]
     
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  10. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Glorious pragmatism! It's fine to violate the Constitution as long as it works out ok.
     
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    Yep, if Jefferson hadn't exceeded his Constitutional Authority - I'd be sitting in a French Speaking Country here in Missouri.
     
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  12. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    (Humour intended here [​IMG] )
    Unless you are a strict Calvinist. Then no matter what happened it would have become part of the US ;) .
     
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    In a world run by strict Constitutionalists there is no room for creativity or for new ideas. Our forefathers were wise in writing a document that did not attempt to foresee every situation a president might find himself in.
     
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    I'm a strict constructionist and was arguing with my father over the "evil abuses" of FDR with the NRA in the 30's.

    I was proven correct as the Supreme Court agreed that he went beyond his powers. But dad, who lived through the Depression, said that right or wrong, it gave hope to a whole generation that there WAS a light at the end of an awful hunger-gnawing tunnel.

    Good to see some events "in perspective" of real life. BTW, I was the president of Young Republicans at the university and Dad was a union steward of the Teamsters! Archie and Meathead in reversed roles!
     
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    Wsn't it Jefferson who had some illegitimate children by some slaves of his?
     
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    It was Jefferson or one of his close relatives; the DNA testing isn't quite certain on that point. The "Descendants of Thomas Jefferson" club (or whatever they call themselves) is reportedly horrified that "those people" might be related to them, and has announced that it couldn't possibly have been him.
     
    #16 The Galatian, Oct 31, 2003
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