Wright is Wrong Again

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  1. carpro

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    http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200804/POL20080428e.html

    Wright: U.S. 'Capable' of Inventing HIV for Genocide

    By Penny Starr
    CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
    April 28, 2008

    Washington, D.C. (CNSNews.com) - The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, former long-time pastor to Sen. Barack Obama (D.Ill.), said at the National Press Club on Monday that he believes the U.S. government is "capable" of having invented HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, as a means of committing genocide against people of color.

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    Wright made the assertion about what he believed the United States was "capable of doing" on Monday when he was asked about what he had said about HIV in his controversial April 2003 sermon at the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, where Obama is a member. "Governments lie," Wright said in that sermon. "The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color."
     
  2. Magnetic Poles

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    Too bad for the GOP that Wright isn't a candidate. :laugh:
     
  3. carpro

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    Wright is the gift that just keeps on giving to the GOP.:laugh:

    He's an anchor around the neck of Obama.:tonofbricks:

    Almost every time he opens his mouth, he reveals his victim's mentality and he's been preaching that attitude to Obama for 20 years.

    It shows.
     
  4. KenH

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    Pastor Wright may have very well sunk Senator Obama's chance to win the Democratic Party presidential nomination. I am very doubtful that his candidacy can survive this second Pastor Wright controversy. We will see next Tuesday.
     
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    I will take your word for it that Wright indeed said this. And clearly this is such an implausible assertion that we have to conclude that Wright is indeed a dangerous person to be influenced by.

    I still think it is very unclear as to how strong the Wright-Obama connection is. I think it is incorrect to simply assume that if Wright was Obama's pastor, that these wacky ideas have rubbed off. There are all sorts of counter-examples in real life, children who reject their parent's values, people who work within churches to undo what they see as leadership that has gone astray etc.

    Can we not do the harder job of looking at what Obama himself has said and done to see how much of an influence Wright has been? The easy path is to assume the worst. And it would be equally irresponsible to not investigate and to assume there has been no negative influence.
     
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    The problem is that much like the clintons politicians have a habit of covering their real intentions so as to gain support from a broader base. There is no reason to simply trust what they say. A larger investigation must be involved.

    When an application for positions of law enforcement, or even Pastor are considered those who the applicant has had relationships with are looked into. It is commonly known that we tend to affiliate with those of like mind. But then this woudl require some thinking on our part instead of gullibly hanging on their words alone.
     
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    I don't care whether you do or not.

    It's in quotation marks. Maybe you should read the source. I gave it to you.
     
  8. KenH

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    And I hope you will apply this to yourself instead of simply swallowing whatever folks on the radical right say.
     
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    If you've ever heard Dr. Stan Monteith on the radio: He studied the HIV outbreak during the 80's. He came to the conclusion that the disease could be controlled and irradicated by the STD's reporting to the CDC: identifying and notifying all contacts, and enforcing abstenance between carriers and non infected persons. He discovered immense oppostition to any suggestion of control and containment of the virus.

    The venom against him from the medical establishment and the official positions taken by the CDC troubled him when many medical collegues were privately in support and agreement with his research and recommendations: It troubled him that many were more concerned about protecting their status in the medical community than taking a political risk of associating support for his ideas.

    I don't know to what extent he was able to investigate, but data he studied strongly suggested that blacks are more susceptible to acquiring HIV through casual sex, than the general population.

    There was a syphilus study done in Alabama in the black population paid and researched by the US government: Health workers did blood test and identified carriers, but withheld the information from those who were infected. They followed the contacts, the rate of infection spread, and the effects of infection upon those infected, all in the name of research.... and the offer of free health care (the carrot to get people to come to the clinics)... which withheld treatment for those infected.

    The department of defense has had budgets to produce new biologics which can be devastating to populations. The investigative process seemed to be opening up many other questionable activities, paid for and supported by US government programs and departments. Some professionals who were or who had been involved in these covert programs, and who had tried to speak out or get attention for issues raised and ignored by program leaders, found Dr Montieth a credible and trusted person, willing to listen, look at their official internal data and research, and capable of understanding the implications which were being ignored and withheld from public reports.

    To make a long story short.... Dr. Montieth discovered that in high places of government there is a covert underground, associated with occult activity and secret societies, with the goals of significant reduction of the population, transforming those who remain to the position of serfs and slaves, and grabbing power, wealth, and property.

    Many people who have been concerned about covert plans and activities have looked suspiciously at The Trilateral Commission, The Council for Foreign Relations and similar 'think tanks'. Associated with these is the Illuminati, The Bilderbergers, The Carlyle Group.

    President GWBush is a member of Skull and Bones: It's an occult group that takes blood oaths. It and similar fraternal organizations (Free Masonry) have blood oaths (swearing obediance upon threat of curses and death) to not divulge the rituals, the secrets, the member ship, the orders and instruction given, and to communicate with one another through signs and symbols by which they 'reveal' their affiliation to another 'brother' . These signs are so subtle, that those not affiliated wouldn't notice.... but a 'brother' or a 'sister' may pick it up...... be it a police officer, a juror, a judge, a witness, any one in a crowd, and by the oath are pledged to come to the defense of a brother in distress. Many of these covert organizations also function as recruitment for covert agencies like the CIA, and the FBI. The ends justify the means, as these groups may have a semblance of interest in humanity through the publically supported charities they sponsor.... but it is the whitewash that keep the suspicion of the public away, and keeps the novice believing he is involved in something good..... not realizing that the rituals and the instructions he receives and the memory work he does is turning his mind into a type of blind acceptance and control.

    Anyone interested and having DSL connection may google Dr Stan Montieth and listen to his broadcast. At first it may sound so shocking, so 'out there' that you don't want to hear... but listen to a few programs and chances are you will start seeing how the things which seemed to be so disjointed going on in todays world, start fitting together and reveals the movement and plans of the diabolical prince of this world.

    In Rev. Wright's defense, much of which he has to say is controversial but right on.... when taken in context. That is not giving him carte blanch approval. Also google his stats, he is not a stupid person by any means.

    I think he is correct: America is under condemnation and we are bideing by, running to and fro, worried about food, about taxes, about deficits, about the devaluing of the dollar, about rising gas, about diseases and infections, about making ends meet, about the influences upon our children by society and the schools, about crime and rampage, about loosing our homes, about keeping up our public personna with those in our church/ community/ workplace....... about everything but focusing on God and his holiness and seeing how filthy we've become.... We need repentance desperately.... as individuals and as a nation. Judgement is already upon our doorstep, and we don't see it. And like a SWAT Team, it will burst in upon us when it comes: we will not turn it back.

    And for many who worship our government as their protectors, are going to be surprised how truely lawless many in government have become (pushing aside the constitution) and how vicious power can be.
     
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    ==While I would love to see a Hillary v. McCain race, because I think either of them would be better than Obama, I don't want to see Obama's campaign end like this. I think the OP is correct. Wright is wrong again, however I don't think he cares. I think he is out to make himself a national figure like Jackson and Sharpton and he is willing to use Obama to get that. I think Wright is shamless and self-serving.
     
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    I think if there was any substance to the man, he would have distanced himself from that guy a long time ago. Now the hateful preacher gets his national stage, at Obama's expense, as Martin correctly pointed out. But Obama's arrogance did as much to damage him as Wright did.

    OTOH, if Wright didn't make the man, than it wouldn't have been so easy for Wright to tear him down. Hard for me to believe Obama didn't know what this guy was saying.

    Let this be a lesson to up and coming politicains, be careful who you put on your advisory committee.
     
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    Well, the US govt was capable of testing LSD and nerve gas in the New York subway system.
     
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    Wright sounds as Muslim as Louis Farakan (sp). He has a passion for the microphone.
     

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