Ye Shall Know them by their Fruits- A look at Anti-Calvinism

They are also true. The man is a theological neophyte. </font>[/QUOTE]I've been amazed at the hostile, caustic and abrasive criticisms from those who call themselves 'christian'! But then, what's in the well comes up in the bucket!!
God is love! Blessings!

 

Hey Bob,

The quotes you posted were all directed toward individuals, and they all came out of heated discussions with those individuals. They are not to be defended but they are certainly in a different class than the statements referenced in the OP. Those statements are all unprovoked, and were directed at a whole group of people, and were a general condemnation of the whole group. Surely we ought to view statements made in the heat of an argument differently than we view statements made in order to start an argument.

 

In his volume on "Reprobation" John Bunyan says, Reprobation is before the person cometh into the world, or hath done good or evil. This is evidenced by Rom 9:11. He also wrote "They that continue to reject and slight the Word of God are such, for the most part, as are ordained to be damned."
In his great book, The Sovereignty of God, A.W. Pink give quotes from many renowned theologians supporting 'reprobation', including George Whitefield, Augustus Toplady, Dr. Hodge, Jonathan Edwards, Wycliffe, Huss, Ridley, Hooper, Cranmer, Ussher, John Trapp, Thomas Goodwin, Thomas Manton(chaplain to Cromwell), John Owen, Witsius, John Gill and a host of others. We mention this simply to show that many of the most eminent saints of bye-gone days, the men most widely used of God, held and taught this doctrine which is so bitterly hated in these last days, when men will no longer "endure sound doctrine"; hated by men of lofty pretensions, but who, notwithstanding their boasted orthodoxy and much advertised piety are not worthy to unfasten the shoes of the faithful and fearless servants of God of other days.
This is the most eye opening, truthful, bible validated book on the doctrines of grace I've read yet! Blessings!

 

Bob,

A Calvinist is called a Calvinist.

Arminians are called Arminians.

The blind are called blind.

Unbelievers are called unbelievers.

Believers are called believers.

The lost are called lost.

The found are called found.

Sheep are called sheep.

Goats are called goats.

Demons are called demons.

Child molesters are called child molesters.

Thieves are called thieves.

Liars are called liars.

False prophets are called false prophets.

And nutcases are called nutcases.

Hope that helps you out!

KJB

 

So, you believe a true statement is "hostile, caustic and (an) abrasive criticism?" How droll. Do you prefer lies? Do you prefer falsehood. If so, why? </font>[/QUOTE]Guess I fantacize of brotherly love and kind exchange of ideas!
Blessings!

 

2BHizown,

Brotherly love? What happened to those called sisters? LOL

I forgot to mention, brothers are called brothers and sisters are called sisters.

KJB

 

This is my favourite.

john.

 

This is my favourite.

john. </font>[/QUOTE]Very descriptive! As some seem to think, Whats truth got to do with it? Just sling mud and keep a ruckus going! Lets cool it with clinging to the truth of the Word and enjoy the challenge of different ideas, kindly! Blessings!

 

Wow, Whetstone, those remarks are derogatory and reveal the condemning attitudes of those against Calvinism.

Several Scriptures state it is not our decision to accept Christ:

John 1:12-13 NIV
Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God - children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.

Romans 9:11-12,16
Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad - in order that God's purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls...

It does not , therefore, depend on man's desire or effort , but on God's mercy.

"IT DOES NOT DEPEND ON MAN'S DESIRE OR EFFORT!!!!"

Anybody having difficulty understanding this?

 

prophecynut,

I hear you loud and clear!

KJB

 

Attitude is everything with corrections, TCassidy. Scorn and sarcasm are never part of brotherly love. Romans 2 says people are won to repentance by kindness. Brotherly love and a kind exchange of ideas is quite possible when correcting someone.

 

So true Helen, You can lead but you cant drive them in! Who would ever want to follow one with such hard line tactics totally absent of Christ love! We can all improve our exchanges here and be a greater influence and blessing!

 

That is a very harsh judgment. What do you know of the love of Christ in my life? Shame on you! The Lord rebuke you. </font>[/QUOTE]Please forgive! Wasnt meant personally but generally! Only our sweet Lord reads hearts! We are only discerning by what we hear and observe! If we all on this forum believe in our Lord Jesus Christ we should be able to discuss viewpoints without any absence of His love! I admit to being a very flawed human and am HIs only by His great mercy and grace!! I know you feel the same as I"ve read your statements to such effect!
In all brotherly love!