Somebody purported on a previous thread that we are not going to change anybody's mind in this Calvinism/Arminianism thing. Wrong. On this very BOARD I know of TWO people who have had their minds changed in the last year or so... Amy and Willls. They are just the first two that come to mind. Some people want to pretend that rigorous debates are not going to change people's minds but the fact of the matter is that they absolutely do. You have your head in the sand if you cannot see that THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of Arminians are changing their minds due to debate in this country. And I'll tell you another thing. Some act like my aggressiveness in debate is counterproductive. I can tell you that if you think that you are dead wrong. No, some don't want to admit at first that my arguments were instrumental in switching them over because they were stung by them, but the fact is that I have PERSONALLY persuaded NUMEROUS Arminians to embrace the Doctrines of Grace. Debate works- rigorous, heated debate.