YESTERDAY ON THE ALEX JONES SHOW

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    On this live Wednesday, November 18 edition of the Alex Jones Show, Infowars reporters Joe Biggs and Michael Zimmerman are in Belgium and France to document the growth of ISIS in Europe. Recently they were chased out of a Muslim ghetto in Brussels. Also, Lord Christopher Monckton discusses the various methods the global elite are using to destroy nation-states to consolidate their control over the world population. We also report on the nearly 70 "Syrian refugees" who were arrested in the U.S. on terrorism charges. Obama, however, wants to bring in even more migrants.
     
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    You're expecting us tyo sit through 2 hours 46 minutes and 33 seconds of this program for what? And if we don't agree with every detail put forth, you'll tell us we're all borgs. Thanks but no thanks.
     
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    No, actually I expected more of your excuses. As per usual.

    "I'm trying to free your mind Neo. But I can only show you the door. You're the one who has to walk through it." Morpheus

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    Don't worry Squire I'll battle the NWO until you're ready to wake up. ;)

    β€œIn the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.” Mark Twain.
     
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    Oh, I'm ready and awake. I am also awaiting your viable and practical plan of action. So far, all I get from you is Thomas Paine but no George Washington. Further 2 3/4+ hours is longer than I spend in a church service at any one time. Unless, I am attending a Evangelical Christian-Baptist meeting that's gotten really on a roll.
     
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    My plan of action is the opposite of your's. Your plan of action seems to be convincing people to believe they are powerless, helpless and have no control to make any change other than pulling a lever every so often.

    What's the opposite of that?

    You could listen to the whole show while you're busy making up your excuses and composing posts that encourage people to feel powerless. It's called multi tasking. ;)

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    I base my plan of action on the precept:
    Your action plan is viable and will work for many people. It just won't work for me and mine. Sorry, God's plan for my life doesn't match your plan for my life.
     
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    If you want to live like that fine. But you seem to want everyone to share the same helpless mindset you have. God didn't put any of us here to feel helpless and powerless or to convince others they are helpless and powerless.
     
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    And so far, you've put forth no viable action plan. You've posted a lot of rhetoric but no viable action plan. By viable, I mean something more realistic than the equivalent of Churchill's Soft Underbelly of Europe strategy or the War Department's Plan Orange for war in the Pacific.
     
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    You want an action plan?

    Why? You aren't ready for an action plan. You'd just make up more excuses why it wouldn't work for you.

    Here's a starting point.

    Stop teaching God's people they have to obey tyrants that have either overstepped their legal authority, usurped authority by deception that was never granted to them or who claim to have authority they do not have.

    Stop trying to convince God's people they are powerless and have no control over what's happening to them.

    Turn off the TV and pull your head out of the false left vs right paradigm.

    Think you can do that?
     
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    What do you know about tyrants? Have you lived under any? My wife and her family have. They are Evangelical Christian-Baptists from the Soviet Union. They moved here in 1990 before the USSR fell apart. My father in law spent time in prison because he wouldn't be a KGB snitch. One of my sister in laws grandfathers was shot back in the 30s. I worked with EC-B immigrants in Sacramento. One of them was on the technical team for the Council of EC-B Churches' underground Bible printing operation.

    I am more than willing to follow their example.
     
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    It seems to me you're the one who doesn't understand what a tyrant is.

    I know that tyranny is rule by persons who lack legitimacy, whether they be malign or benevolent. A tyrant doesn't have to reach the evil of a Stalin or Hitler to be a tyrant. The cop on the street that stops you without probable cause and searches you or your car without a warrant is a tyrant. The government employee who listens in on your phone calls without probable cause and a warrant is a tyrant.

    I also know that all it takes for tyranny to flourish is for good men to do nothing.

    And I also know from reading your posts that "good men should do nothing" is at the heart of your philosophy.

    You said it yourself. You get up in the morning and read the newspaper and the bible then do nothing.

    You do get on baptistborg and try to convince others there is nothing anyone can do once in awhile though. So you are doing something and that something is helping tyranny to flourish.

    Long story short, your "sermon" is Christians need not be vigilant. Christians need not be prepared. Christians need not be committed to liberty. Christians should get up in the morning read the newspaper, read the bible and try to convince others they are powerless, helpless and have no control. Especially when someone is trying to convince them otherwise.
     
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    The emergence of tyranny therefore begins with challenges to a group, develops into general feelings of insecurity and inadequacy, and falls into a pattern in which some individuals assume the role of "father" to the others, who willingly submit to becoming dependent "children" of such persons if only they are reassured that a more favorable outcome will be realized. This pattern of co-dependency is pathological, and generally results in decisionmaking of poor quality that makes the situation even worse, but, because the pattern is pathological, instead of abandoning it, the co-dependents repeat their inappropriate behavior to produce a vicious spiral that, if not interrupted, can lead to total breakdown of the group and the worst of the available outcomes.

    http://www.constitution.org/tyr/prin_tyr.htm

    So here's what I hear you saying Squire. It's better to convince others they are powerless, helpless and have no control while tyranny is in it's emerging stages rather than do something about it while we can.

    It almost sounds as if you want us to believe tyranny suddenly materializes out of a vacuum to force us into underground compounds to print bibles.

    That's never been the case. Tyranny doesn't just suddenly "appear" from nowhere. There are warning signs and what I am saying is stop ignoring the warning signs and making excuses and do something like educate people to these warning signs so they can be vigilant, so they can be prepared and so they can become committed to liberty.

    We should be empowering people. I want people to understand we can make a difference. We are not powerless. We are not helpless and we have more control than we realize. You on the other hand seem to want people to feel powerless, to feel helpless and feel they have no control and the best we can do is keep a low profile until we are forced to print bibles in our cellars.

    I'm not buying it.
     
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    And my question what actions should I take when my local law enforcement officers are not (to the best of my knowledge) acting as tyrants?

    My tyrants are fairly local. Just take a look at the make up of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors, the California State Legislature\Governor, not to mention our two US Senators.

    I'm going repeat a story my WW2 veteran father tells me. He was born in Idaho and raised in Washington State. During the war, he'd have conversations something like this:

    Fellow Dogface: So, y'all are from Washington State?
    Dad: Yeup
    Fellow Dogface: Washington wasn't one of the Confederate States. Tell me what side of The War did you people fight on?
    Dad: We were Westerners. My folks were too busy fighting Indians to worry about what was going on back East.​

    The answer was good enough in 1942 and it's paraphrase still good today. I'm too busy fighting Indians to worry about what's going on back East.
     
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    That's a great story in that it completely misses the point. Which is no surprise as most of your "rebuttals" miss and/or ignore the points I'm making. I don't know if you do this on purpose or not all I know is you do it rather consistently.

    The point is. I'd like to see people feeling empowered you on the other hand seem to want people to feel powerless.

    Look if you want to feel powerless fine that's your prerogative but don't try to make everyone else feel powerless because you do.

    I posted an essay that defined tyranny and how to recognize it in it's early stages. You didn't respond to that at all. Instead you came back a story that has absolutely nothing to do with it.

    I bet you didn't read it. I know, I understand taking five minutes to read an essay is more time than you can spare to learn something you apparently do not know or understand. You'd rather spend those five minutes making excuses instead.

    I'm not asking you move the world for crying out loud. I'm just asking you to stop trying to transfer your own feelings of powerlessness on the rest of us. If you want to sit and watch while the country implodes fine but don't expect me to follow your example. It ain't going to happen.

    I'm going to continue to give people the opportunity to learn things the government the corporate media and the baptistborg doesn't want them to know. I'm going to continue to tell people they are not powerless and I don't care how much it upsets the baptistborg.
     
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    I don't fell powerless and I'm not upset. After all, I belong to and serve the King of Kings, the Lord of Lords, the Creator of the Universe (yes I'm a Six Day Creationist). In His power, I can do anything. But, you have yet to inform me what substantive practical actions I should take. What is substantive practical for you isn't necessarily substantive practical for me.

    You remind me of a fellow member of my local John Birch Society chapter. I had a discussion with him some forty years ago. We were talking about our (39,000 pop.) city's political situation. I wasn't even twenty at the time. So, I asked him why he didn't run for city council. He said he wouldn't run because our city's governing structure was un-American. I had a whaa- moment. Then, I realized he was from the South. He expected a structure with the mayor as the full time chief executive. My city like most California city's of our size has a part time city council which hires a full time city manager to handle the day to day stuff.
     
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    If anyone is exhibiting powerlessness it is the person that posts umpteen times a day about how helpless we are in the hands of the controllers--mega corporations, international bankers, the CFR, the Federal Reserve, Big Pharmacy, mass media, GMO food producers, etc. etc.

    You offer no solutions.

    The very definition of powerlessness.

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    You lie.

    I say abolish the Federal Reserve. You say it's not a problem.

    I say break up the monopolies. You say there are no monopolies.

    I say hold the police to the same standard they hold us. You say I hate cops.

    I say look at the evidence. You say there is no evidence.

    I've been offering solutions for years. You've been claiming I haven't for years.

    Conclusion. You lie.

    But look at the bright side you got at least two people that don't know you as well as I do to "like" your lies. Laugh

    The consensus of the baptistborg is black is white, up is down and the sun rises in the west. It has to be true because government sources and the corporate media says it's true. Rolleyes
     
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    I see you are making stuff up in your head again. Have a lie down.
     
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    You remind me of my mother. Her favorite saying is "I can't."

    I told you there are a thousand things you could do. You chose to pick out the ones you "can't" do to proceed to tell me none of my solutions would work.

    You can't pay your mortgage in gold. Duh. Trade it for federal reserve notes or doesn't your mortgage company acccept cash? If not then put the cash into your account and write a check. Or doesn't your mortgage company accept checks from your account?

    I could say, stop funding La Raza by not purchasing Coca Cola who uses the profits from their global sales of sugar water to fund La Raza.

    You'd say. "I don't buy Coca Cola."

    I could say grow a garden. You'd say "I don't have a yard."

    I could say buy groceries at the farm market instead of Wal Mart. You'd say "the farm market is to far away."

    I could sit here and name a thousand things you could be doing and you'd sit there and tell me why none of it would work for you. You don't want solutions.

    You want to make excuses.
     
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