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You All Must Be Really Proud of Roberts and George W

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by saturneptune, Jun 28, 2012.

  1. OldRegular

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    Latest on the above: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/could-republicans-really-repeal-obamacare-091546012.html

    What about the filibuster? Don't you need 60 votes to do anything in the Senate?
    Not in this case. Because Chief Justice John Roberts' majority opinion ruled the individual mandate a "tax," a Republican-led Senate could repeal that provision--and others--using what is called "budget reconciliation," a procedural tactic that requires only a simple majority vote. The Republican vice president, in this hypothetical scenario, would break the tie. (Democrats used the same method in 2010 to pass the health care bill.)​
     
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    Thanks for the post S/N. Seems to me I read/heard the following point you present during discussion of the bill.

     
  3. Zaac

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    I didn't vote for W the second time because he kept saying that Muslims and Christians worship the same god.

    He was taken to the woodshed by Billy Graham and some other prominent men of faith. And then he turned around and said nationally two more times. (smh)

    At that point, I had made up my mind to not vote for him because his true colors were starting to show.
     
  4. InTheLight

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    I would think this phrase would cover it:

    The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises....to provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States.


    Isn't it in the general welfare of the citizens to have health insurance?
     
  5. Zaac

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    Why is it in the general welfare of the US that every citizen to have health insurance? What if some folks don't want it or feel like they are at an age where they don't need it?

    Is it in the general welfare of the US to wire the mouths of fat people shut so that they lose weight and not be a burden on the insurance companies?

    Is it in the general welfare of the US to make sure that every car has a working air conditioner?

    Where is this general welfare of the US line drawn?
     
  6. OldRegular

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    Not necessarily. Health insurance tends to drive up the cost of medicine. This is certainly true as long as the dems are in the pocket of trial lawyers.

    Perhaps the worst tragedy of Obamacare is that many people think they are going to get medical care at no cost to themselves. The 15 member "death panel" is now empowered to deny care to those they "deem" expendable; just like Obamacare was "deemed" to be passed!

    Furthermore, it is a fact that certain things flow downhill. This is ultimately true of both taxes and costs. The consumer pays everything and the burden is greatest on the lower income folks.
     
  7. InTheLight

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    Don't complain to me about it. It was mentioned in the majority opinion of the ruling:

    We have upheld Congress's authority to condition the receipt of funds on the States' complying with restrictions on the use of those funds, because that is the means by which Congress ensures that the funds are spent according to its view of the "general Welfare."
     
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    Or his family threatened.....
     
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    Yep, me too. After 09/11 and I did some research, I found a lot of information I didn't know about him. I voted for the CP candidate, Michael Peroutka, the second time.
     
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