You may be getting a free Quran on your doorstep

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  1. LadyEagle

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    I really don't think leaving a Koran at someone's door is a good idea. Most people don't want unsolicited items. They usually get thrown away.

    As for Obama saying he will support the Muslims, I take that to mean he won't support Israel. Big mistake!!!
     
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    What are the laws regarding this?
    Leaving any religious material at a private residence, I mean.

    If it's legal to leave Christian material, then it follows that other
    religious stuff is covered as well.

    I get stuff from JW and others, I just toss it, no harm done.
     
  4. Magnetic Poles

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    Exactly! Non news. If you ban this, you ban the Gideons too. No harm, no foul.
     
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    It may be non news, but it may be informative to some who will now know the reason behind them finding a Quran on their doorstep. I know where ours will end up.
     
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    "You may be getting a free Quran on your doorstep."

    How nice. :)
     
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    How about in your personal library to learn about Islam to be better able to understand and reach Muslims for Christ?
     
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    Rom 16:19 For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.
     
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    How many right-wing Christians do you think are interested in witnessing to Muslims, MP? Based on what I have read around the Internet since 9/11/2001 I doubt there are very many, IMHO. :tear:
     
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    ==I will not get a free copy because there are very few, if any, Muslims in our area. Southeastern North Carolina is Baptist country after all. However I have wanted a copy of the Quran for a while. It would help when I teach about the rise of Islam and Islamic expansion in my Western Civilization I classes. So if I got a copy it would go in my library. Sooner or later I am going to be forced to purchase one anyway.
     
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    No, it is what you want to imply. There is a difference.
     
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    That's a simplistic application of that verse.

    After all, what was Paul doing on the Areopagus quoting those pagan poets? Surely he read them beforehand!
     
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    In verse 17 Paul tells us to mark and avoid those who teach false doctrines or to shun them. The context of verse 19 is set by this. No where in scripture does it suggest in any fashion that we should learn about evil religions to evangelize the world. Verse 19sets up a biblical principle that we do not recognize a lie by studying a lie. You defeat a lie by first knowing the truth alone. The Holy Ghost does the drawing, we present the gospel. Anything beyond that is man made philosophy.
     
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    Exactly - if the Gideons can pass out Bibles they can pass out the Koran.

    America is a great land that allows religious freedom. What a marvelous freedom. Wish I was there, I'd like to have a copy.
     
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    :thumbs: AMEN! Preach it Rev!!!:applause:
     
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    I wonder which translation they are leaving. I have a Moslem friend who lives in Jordan. When she was getting her masters at Eastern Mennonite University in Peacemaking she said she was horrified when she read the Saudia translation of the Quran as it was/is an extremely bad translation. She said that if the Quran really said in Arabic what the Saudias translated it into that even she would hate the Moslems for their bloodlust. It was the worse example of mistranslating that she had ever seen.

    Probably we all should read a good translation so we could talk intelligently about what is said by them and about them.

    And no, at the moment, I do not know what translation into English is a good one. Would take some research to find out.
     
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    I wonder how it will be left at my door step.

    Will it be brought to me with an honor guard?
    Will it be on a podium adorned in fine linen?
    Will it be presented with white gloved hands?
    Will it be place in a bright yellow bag with walking fingers and simply dropped at the mail box?
    If brought by a honor guard, will they insist on coming into my home to make sure that I understand all the protocol surrounding it's handling?
    Will they insist that I read it while clutching the hilt of their sword?
    Will they want to sit with me to explain the will of Allah?
    Will the explaining be with grace or by the beating of fist?
    If they are going to be civilized and engage in dialog that will openly hear the Gospel of Jesus?
    If the final question is yes, then I say bring it on!!!!!!!
     
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    If you don't know what the lie is how to you (a) recognize it, (b) respond to it, or (c) refute it with God's Word? I would point out to you that the Apostle Paul knew very well what the false teachers of his day were teaching. At the Areopagus, the Apostle walked through and looked at what these people were worshipping (Acts 17:16,22). He was "provoked" or angered by the idols, but he took the time to understand what they were teaching. That is why he was able to talk with them and deal with their false teachings (Acts 17:28). When we look at Paul's writings to the Galatians we see a man who was very familiar with the false teachings that were spreading in the church. He understood that in order to refute a false teaching one must first know what the false teaching is.

    Therefore I think your application of Romans 16:19 is a bit simplistic. Christians should be "innocent in what is evil", that means that we should not be involved in evil activities. Christians need to be educated and grounded in God's Word. That way false teachings don't have a chance to throw us off course (2Cor 2:11). When confronting false teachings, it does help to know something about that false teaching.

    Do we have to learn about Islam, or other false religions, in order to witness to people? No, but if you plan on witnessing to a serious Muslim you better know something about how they view Christianity. Otherwise you could make some very serious mistakes. For most Christians in America, however, this is not an issue. Most American Christians need to be more concerned about the false teachings of the word of faith movement, the mormons, the seventh day adventists, and the Jehovah Witnesses.
     
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    What Paul saw was not the same thing as studying it in detail. You don't go reading and studying the Koran for any reason. And we do not need to know how Moslem's view Christianity in order to witness to them as I have proven with scripture.
     
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    Don't be afraid...it won't hurt to learn a little.

    You may want to tell this to ministries like the Christian Research Institute (equip.org), and the Watchman Fellowship (watchman.org). There are plenty others, I'm sure, who spend a lot of time and money to learn about other religions and cults.
     

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