Young white men

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  1. Skandelon

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    I recently heard a statistic in a speech that I'm trying to locate the source for, but it was about the current Calvinistic resurgence in the US being made up of a large number of young white men. It seems like it was more than 70% of those in this "resurgence" were young white men.

    Does anyone know of this stat? Or have comment about it? Do you think its accurate and why?
     
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    I haven't heard it before.

    No way to tell if it's accurate until the source is found and looked at carefully.

    No reason to comment on it until the source is found and looked at carefully. Everything would be pure speculation.

    peace to you:praying:
     
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    From the article:

    Glory Hallelujah! Maybe there's hope yet!

    The 5 points of TULIP were developed in response to Arminius's 5 points of disagreement with the doctrines of Sovereign Grace.

    Praise the Lord! Maybe He will revive us again. :)

    Again, as the results of the Synergist/Monergist poll really surprised me, this catches me off guard also. This is a good thing, not a bad thing. There could be absolutely no harm to come from "touting the benefits of in-depth biblical doctrine" as stated in the article.

    Thanks for sharing Skandy and Winman. :)
     
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    I'm sure it will confirm what we all secretly think of black people.
     
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    I didn't see that statistic given in this article.

    No comment, but questions. What is your point? So what if 70% are young white men? Is there something inherently wrong or sinister with that?
     
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    So...what do we supposedly all think secretly of black people??? :confused:
     
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    No, I just wanted to find it so I could use it for some research work I'm doing on the subject. However, I guess if I really wanted to I could warn people to be leery of any doctrine that only seems to appeal to a particular gender or socio-economic class or especially young people, who are more prone to be influenced by false teachings....but I don't want to do that :wavey:
     
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    But since you can't find the source, I guess you won't be able to do that since it wouldn't be appropriate.

    It might be appropriate, however, to warn people to be leery of "researchers" who use one-sided and biased opinions of an issue that will distort the truth in an effort to reach pre-determined conclusions and promote a hate-filled agenda with an unChristlike attitude...of yeh, and promotes false doctrines too.

    I guess I won't do that since it might not be appropriate.:wavey:

    peace to you:praying:
     
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    I'm glad you didn't do that, because then I would be forced remind you that if Calvinism is true the "pre-determined conclusions" those researchers came to were "unchangeably ordain to come to pass" by God, and they really had no ability to willingly do otherwise. :laugh:
     
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    From the article:
    Strange how the people holding the "event" give antidotal evidence that is contrary to the findings of the study.... and promotes a stereo-type of calvinism that is rejected by almost every refomed minded pastor.

    peace to you:praying:
     
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    :laugh:

    peace to you:praying:
     
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    Just like your typical Liberal.

    Oh, the hidden things of shame, craftiness, and deceit. It will get you no where in the long run. :)
     
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    These are not contradictory statements. The first statement is reporting the statements of recent graduates, the second statement is the observations of Drace.
     
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    Drace:
    If that's not a biased, leading statement, then I don't know one. And, as canadyjd brought out, it IS contrary to the reports. Is Drace a mind reader?
     
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    It would not at all surprise me if the 70 percent figure is correct.

    The resurgence is occurring predominantly among traditionally white denominations whose pastors are overwhelmingly men, and it is among recent seminary grads that the impetus is strongest.
     
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    I found this article that addresses the issue of why Calvinism appeals to young people especially. It is quite long, 5 pages, but very interesting and informative.

    Moderator's note: To prevent copyright violation, I have linked to the remainder of the article at the New York Times Web site:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/magazine/11punk-t.html
     
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    In the yrs I attended NOBTS the so called "Calvinists" met behind locked doors to do their group Bible studies---I never figured why they had to lock the doors---I suppose they were afraid of Dr. Leavell or Dr. Stewart catchin' them!! It was always rumored that anyone at NOBTS caught studying Calvin was banned from school----but I never heard of anyone being caught!! Reported--yes---but never caught!!!
     
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    So what's your insidious insinuation Winman, that today's resurgence of Sovereign Grace Theology is summed up in this Mars Hill 'church' from the 'Left Coast'? Just how many far left whacko 'churches' of the Arminian persuasion do you think there have been in the past? Far, far, more than in the Calvinist camp, I guarantee you.

    Sometimes your tactics are downright sickening Winman.
     
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