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  1. donnA

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    about a person who prays for a job, and God gives them one then they complain about the job not being good enough, not enough money, and are waiting for the real job God wants to give them?
     
  2. dianetavegia

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    Donna's talking about my family here. My husband had been out of work for 3 years when his company cut back to just the husband and wife/ owners, working temp jobs, part time and full time jobs, day labor and the only permanent job he was able to get was $8.85 an hour. When I asked for prayer for a better paying job so we could honor our debts, Donna sent me a very long and strongly worded email on 7/12/2004 (which I kept, by the way) telling me I was quite wrong for praying for another, better paying job.

    Now, feel free to discuss my family which includes a 57 year old husband who has Multiple Sclerosis, Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease, Asthma, Rheumatoid Arthritis, High Blood Pressure, an atropied bladder (has to catherize himself to urinate for almost 12 years now) and more and yet has never drawn ONE DAY of unemployment.
     
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    I know Diane that things have been pretty tough for you, but I confess that I did not know that your husband was going through medical problems like that.

    Multiple Sclerosis scares me alot, When I used to work for a newsagent collecting paper money, this chap that I used to call on told me that he had just been diagnosed with it, he was only 30 and had two small children. I can not even begin to think what that would be like going through M.S.

    By the way Diane, God has a plan and a purpose in all things, I have had some jobs that led me to another, that is quite a usual way to climb the corporate ladder, and I have no doubt that God has something for you. Also there are quite a high number of testimonies comming out of our prayer forum here, so I have no doubt yours is soon to be one.
     
  4. dianetavegia

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    Thanks Ben. He's working a 6 day a week job now, has a part time night job which is 'by the job' and I keep children in our home. Jim also works our sound system at church with some other folk in both first and second service plus Wednesday night choir practice, co-teaches the 4 year olds in Sunday School with me and is a teacher assistant in our grades 3-6 Discipleship Class on Sunday afternoons. Anyone who doubts this info is welcomed to contact our pastor at First Baptist Church in Villa Rica. [​IMG]

    Donna asked:
     
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    I suppose it is easy to see another and be critical failing to apprecioate that each member is responsible to God and not to man.

    Praise the Lord that your husband is working, and I see nothing wrong in asking God for a better paying job. In most western societies, given his ailments, he would be drawing benefits and not out working at all.

    Cheers, and God bless,

    Jim
     
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    No,,I'm not talking about you Diane, I'm not sure why everything has to be about you.

    As a mattter of fact, I almost posted a topic about this family(they've been on my mind and I spoke with her in texas just last night), and I think I even mentioned them on another thread of yours. You know the one where he was beating her and now won't let her see the girls, her name is Jane, his is Robby(Robert).
    He got a degree in some kind of arts (don't remember now what it was) or something, a really good painter/ artist, could do almost anything. For a year they got food stamps and a medical card because he refused to take a job that wasn't in his choosen field. He had a certain amout he thought his services were worth, he thought a lot more highy of himself then he should. Complained when Hasbro (toy company)wouldn't offer him as much as he wanted to do the art work on toy packages. If you take a look at packages like Spiderman and G.I. Joe toys you'll see some of them are very detailed. thats the kind of work he does, or would have. I think, not sure, he does something graphic design and still less then he thinks he's worth, but a bundle still.
    So see, everything isn't about you.
     
  7. dianetavegia

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    Thank you Jim1999. We feel blessed that's he still able to work. [​IMG]
     
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    Gee Diane, you can't live on $8.85 an hour, my husband makes $8.15 an hour.

    yes, I emailed Diane(after she emailed me), She had asked for pray for Jim to get a job then when God gave him one complained God's blessing wasn't good enough for her. She wanted more money. I would never tell my husband the money he makes isn't good enough for me, we will always live on just what he makes, we'll lower our already standard of living to live within he means of support. and we have in the past. He is more important then money and i would never make him think he wasn't good enough, or wasn't taking good enough care of me. when I did baby sit, he refused me using it to take care of bills or the house. He allowed me to baby sit 1. to help our friends, 2. to ahve extra spending money for me, which I used to buy stuff for my family, like clothes and christmas gifts, groceries to help mom (who lives on a very limited amount of money). But I never told him his maney wasn't enough, and have always been thankful for whatever God has given us.
    I welcome her posting that email if she likes becasue I said nothing wrong in it.
     
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    Donna, I think your assessment of the situation you started the thread about is quite accurate. For a man to refuse work because it wasn't his chosen field, then expect others to support him adn his family is wrong. He should take whatever work he can get while continuing to look for a position in his chosen field. (See, we agree on something. [​IMG] )
     
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    They used to pay bills by having yard sales, but he refused to sell anything of his, they sold her stuff. He had this hugh collect of 1970's Star Wars stuff, some worth a lot of money and refused to sell any of it to help his family. She had to ask permission to talk on the phone ot me or her mother, or to do any activity in church. they evntually decided church wasn't good enought for them either and quit. I tried to get them to go to another church, just choose one and go. Nope, didn't want too, none of them for good enough met his qualifications(none do, he goes now to pick up women and cares nothing baout the church itself). Suposedly he's bipolar, he's something alright , and it isn't nice. He would throw his wife out for weeks at a time becasue he was tired of her.
    I could go one, but this is silly having to explain why I'm not talking about someone else on this board.
     
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    I think most men would see it that way too. Men usually just have this supplier mentality to take care of the family. Which is the way it should be. I think it's like women having the mothering instinct. Men have the same instinct to take care of people.
     
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    Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004

    We ask for your continued prayer. YES, Jim did get a job but it's an $8.85 hr. job at night taking reservations for Air-Tran. We praise God for the income but it's HALF what we need to pay our bills and we continue to seek God's will and the job God has planned for Jim. Even a day job at the same rate or part time would be a blessing to us!

    I'll be keeping a church family's children after school this year but could really use another child or so just to attempt to make the other half of the needed income. An infant would be a great blessing also. We delivered the Yellow Pages a couple of weekends last month to help pay the mortgage. HARD WORK ! I've also worked in a friends Antique Store mornings a few days and continue to do that when she needs me. Jim picked up a 2 'day job' working with the non-English speaking crowd that lines up daily looking for day
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    Our daughter sees the neurologist Tuesday, July 13th, but he's referring her to a neurosurgeon which means more waiting and more worry.

    Little Jack has had no more seizures. We're so thankful for his healing! He'll be staying with us again this fall while mom and dad attend an INJOY seminar.

    In HIS love,
    The Tavegia Family
     
  13. donnA

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    I'm not sure I've ever seen you say what happened with this. But I don't read everything on the board either.
     
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    Tell them to get a real job and quit complaining.
     
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    We pretty much did, but they've since moved back to Texas and divorced (he didn't want her anymore, but prefers several other women instead).
     
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    As a nurse I will never be unemployed EXCEPT if my health fails,there are few jobs in nursing to cope with broken nurses. There are some....

    I have just secured a new position in a cardiac catheterisation laboratory which has no NIGHT SHIFT, alleluia alleulia. Good things do come to those who wait. I do love to be asleep at night.
     
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    This is true Briony!

    My mother was a nurse. When her health prevented her from working on a floor, she became a private nurse, sitting with the terminally ill, in homes and hospitals (mostly on the night shift).

    Her last 'case' was when she was 72.

    Nursing is a good and noble profession! [​IMG]
     
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    Donna, I don't think this guy's problem is just that he won't accept God's blessing and live with it.

    This guy has a heart problem and an ego as big as Texas. I'm sure there are two sides to every situation but, if I were her, I'd find a way to support myself and then when I were fully settled, I'd take legal action to get my kids back. (I'm assuming here that somewhere along the line, she either caved to his demands or did something herself that caused the loss of custody)

    As far as he goes, until he is ready to fully surrender to the Lord, nothing will change, you might as well be talking to the wind.
     
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    God delights in blessing his children with much . . . Sometimes that means giving them a new job with more pay. It makes it easier on us!

    Right now I work a really low paying job. I'm by myself and I really don't need much. But if God saw fit to give me a higher paying job I think that would be neat.

    There's nothing wrong with praying for something we don't necessarily need but we'd like to have. It is God's pleasure to give us special things we don't need--the desires of our heart! If we are following after him, those desires are good. I heard a preacher once say, "Go ahead and ask. The worst he can do is say no." [​IMG]

    Besides . .. I don't think Diane was talking about her husbund refusing to work because he wanted a better job. He is working--he's taking what he can get. But I know from my own family that it takes a lot to keep up with children and their needs--food, school, medicine .. . My dad has worked the same job since I was very little. My parents have put three children through college and have three more to put through.

    God will supply--sometimes by gifts from others--sometimes by tax refunds!--sometimes by new jobs that PAY MORE. [​IMG] Nothing wrong with that.

    God bless and I'll pray with you Diane that God will suply the needs and if he wills give your husband a higher paying job. He can do it!

    [​IMG]
     
  20. donnA

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    She caved in.
    She is loking to going to court in the next couple of months. The oldest girl will be 12 in June and legally can address teh judge, tell him what her life is like and where she'd prefer to live.
    Your right, it is a heart problem which is what I told her the other night.
     

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