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Your view on abortion

Discussion in 'Polls Forum' started by SaggyWoman, Mar 29, 2008.

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What is your view on abortion?

  1. Abortion is wrong.

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  2. Abortion is wrong only after 3 months.

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  3. Abortion is wrong only after six months.

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  4. Abortion is wrong only if the one carrying the baby thinks it is wrong.

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  5. There is nothing wrong with abortion.

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  6. Other answer

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  1. Rubato 1

    Rubato 1 New Member

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    Hey webdog, ever pin down a cloud?

    So you're saying that the Samaritan did the wrong thing, SFIC?
     
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    Ironic.....isn't it......that you would post this just after our conversation earlier...


    Pride can enter an abortion debate as well.
     
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  3. standingfirminChrist

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    Rubato,

    As I said earlier, the Samaritan was the neighbor. The priest and levite were not.

    rbell,
    Again, no pride on my part. Did you bring some in with you?
     
    #63 standingfirminChrist, Apr 8, 2008
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    So, did the Samaritan to the right thing?
     
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    I believe abortion is murder. Period.

    I also think that there are circumstances where that choice possibly has to be made - but not as often as people think. In the case of eclampsia, if it occurs early enough, it will come out to be a choice of mother or child. The only cure is delivery and before 26 weeks, that is a death sentence for the child. However, the mother AND child will surely die if the baby is not delivered. So it does come to the choice of "murdering" the baby or letting them both die.

    I do know that there are surely other scenerios which leave the parent's with a horrible choice and there are many that I just don't know what I'd do. Do I crucify the parents? No I don't. It's a supremely difficult choice and one I cannot make for them. IF there's a chance that the child can live, then I think it's best to try and IF there's a way for the pregnancy to continue for a little while to give the baby the best chance, then I think it's best to try. But there are times when the choice is pretty clear and I think that's a different story than just "abortion".

    Even a tubal pregnancy results in an abortion. That baby has no chance to survive but the choice needs to be made to let "nature take it's course" or to try to save the mother.
     
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  6. rbell

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    I don't know, sfic....why don't we do a search between us and see if we can find one of us who has uttered the following:

    "I was wrong."
    "I'm sorry."
    "I changed my mind."

    Hint: Don't bother. It's not you.
     
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    C,mon, rbell. I distincly remember SFIC saying:

    'you were wrong.'
    'you're sorry.'
    'you changed your mind'...




    rimshot, please.
     
    #67 Rubato 1, Apr 8, 2008
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    Webdog,

    Situations like this are the only...only...*ONLY*...time when the abortion is justified. In a case like this it is clearly not murder. My post regarding abortion being "government sponsored murder", and "baby extermination centers" is not in referance to situations like this.

    If someone were to say that THIS situation is murder, they would have to say that to opt out of the abortion...knowing your wife would die...would ALSO be murder.

    StandingFirm, are you sure you want to advocate webdog MURDERING his wife, and the mother of those kids?

    Mike
     
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  9. standingfirminChrist

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    Abortion is murder and can NEVER be justified.

    Whatever happened to God's will? Is it God's will for Him to give someone a child only for them to make a decision to kill it before it reaches full term? Is it His will for His children to justify sin?

    I already know the answer to both of those questions... it is No.

    Is it murdering the mother to save the life of the child? No, it is not. God's will is for the child to be born. otherwise, he would not have allowed the pregnancy to take place.

    If the mother dies because the child was born, it is not that man is killing the woman. It is God's will.

    Some need to yield to God's will.
     
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    So, did the Samaritan to the right thing?
    You're really boosting my posts count with this, SFIC...
     
    #70 Rubato 1, Apr 8, 2008
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    So, is it murdering to allow the mom AND the child to die?

    This fatalistic stuff you advocate pretty much nixes the need for medicine. Just trust in God. His will will be done.

    You sound muslim: "Allah wills it."

    Unlike you, I allow for grace in this terrible decision. It is the ONLY circumstance in which I can conceive of, or understand, abortion.
     
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    Standing by and watching someone die and not doing anything is not murder? I think it is.

    Is it God's will that a child will get cancer? Should we allow that to run it's course too because we need to yield to God's will? That's not us killing the child.
     
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  13. standingfirminChrist

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    Grace does not allow sin.

    Shall we continue in sin that grace shall abound? God forbid!

    Abortion is murder. It is sin and cannot be justified.
     
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    So, did the Samaritan to the right thing. SFIC?

    Y'all stand back. I've got him right where I want him.
     
    #74 Rubato 1, Apr 8, 2008
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    To him that knoweth to do good and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

    God has given medicine and surgical knowledge to battle cancer.

    you are comparing apples to oranges in your feeble attempt to justify someone murdering a child God has given.
     
    #75 standingfirminChrist, Apr 8, 2008
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    [​IMG] <--------Nice Dodge.
     
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    Certainly not apples and oranges. God has also given medicine and surgical knowledge to save the life of mom.

    So, in the case of a 20 week gestation woman who's got life threatening eclampsia, we let her die?

    What about a tubal pregnancy?
     
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    As I said, God gave the little life growing inside of Mom. It is never justified to murder that life. If God did not want dad to have that child, or mom to have that child, He would never have given that child.
     
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    Let 'er die.

    SFIC, quoting muslim theology, "allah wills it." :rolleyes:
     
    #79 rbell, Apr 8, 2008
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    To put it simply, did the Samaritan of Christ's parable do the right thing?
    (I think I'm gonna reach 1,000 with this thing! Yippee!)
     
    #80 Rubato 1, Apr 8, 2008
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