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Your View On Women As Pastors

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Baptist4life, Aug 20, 2009.

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Your View On Women As Pastors

  1. I see nothing un-Biblical about a woman being a pastor

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  2. I believe having a woman as a pastor is un-Biblical

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  1. gb93433

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    Don't you think that very much parallels the increase in calvinism today?
     
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  2. Marcia

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    Clearly, "cut off your arm, etc" is not literal. However, this is:

     
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  3. Jerome

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    Did someone say literal?
    Instructing men at church isn't teaching if you call it a "lecture".:laugh:
     
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    I am not a calvinist, but that's not true in any sense of the word. To equate the growth of a heresy (gnosticism) with the growth of Calvinism which, although I disagree, has backing from the Scriptures.

    JohnV is correct that gnosticism was a huge problem. But I don't agree with him that Paul's teaching about the authority of husbands had anything to do with gnosticism.
     
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    Which is where I think everyone should agree to having differing viewpoints on the topic, respect those viewpoints, and leave the topic where it is. If your church does not permit women as pastors, or in any specific leadership role, that church's rule on the subject should be respected and adhered to, in accordance with the Baptist Distinctives of local autonomy and individual liberty.
     
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    I agree totally but a women's ministry doesn't mean that they're overtaking the church. It means that there is a ministry for the women. Our church has a ministry to the disabled. If that was our only ministry aside from the Sunday service, it wouldn't mean that the disabled are running our church. It would just mean that they're meeting.

    I totally agree with all of this but denying another ministry doesn't fix the issue, IMO.

    I agree that if you have strong female leadership then you have a weak church but I think having strong female discipleship - BIBLICAL discipleship, it can lead to a very strong church because you have women who know their Biblical role and spend much time on their knees for the church, the leadership and their own husbands.

    Fully agree and I see this in my church. We have strong men AND strong women. But I know it wasn't always the case yet they didn't step on the women to try to bring up the men. The women were strong enough on their own to bend their knee to bring the men up.
     
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    Agreed on both points - although I do agree with the doctrine of grace. :)
     
    #267 annsni, Aug 31, 2009
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    More blasts from the past:

    "An Englishwoman's Visit to America," Hartford Courant, July 18, 1890, p. 2:
    "Eloquent Women," Washington Post, Feb. 18, 1890, p. 5:
     
    #268 Jerome, Jan 5, 2010
  9. ReformedBaptist

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    so, this shows...that possibly they were wrong in 1890 too.
     
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  10. Johnv

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    Somewhat off topic, every church since day 1 has been wrong about something or another. Every church is probably wrong about at least one thing. If a person thinks they found a church that's right on everything, I guarantee they're spoil it by joining that church. The question is whether differing on such things is an issue. If the issues are core scriptural doctrines, then yes, there must be unity. Where they are not core scriptural issues, there must be liberty. These issues discussed here are not core scriptural issues. Hence, they're matters of liberty.
     
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    "Female Evangelists: What Dr. E. W. Warren Says On the Interesting Subject," Atlanta Constitution, June 4, 1891, p. 2:
     
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    That's why I ( a male) am married to a dude.
     
    #272 thegospelgeek, Jan 7, 2010
  13. David Michael Harris

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    All my first school teachers were Christian ladies and I respect them. Godly women. I don't have a problem with them being leaders if there are no blokes around who are stronger.

    Paul talks about women not teaching in Church. ??

    I think if I was in leadership I would think about this more, but for now a godly person is a godly person.
     
    #273 David Michael Harris, Jan 7, 2010
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    Excuse me! ( said in a sense, 'what did you just say' )
     
    #274 David Michael Harris, Jan 7, 2010
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    From Down Under:

    The Sword and the Trowel, July 1882, "A Visit to Mr. Thomas Spurgeon":
    The Sword and the Trowel, October 1882, "Notes":
    New Zealand Observer, Sept. 10, 1881:
    Gisborne (N.Z.) Herald, November 2, 1883:
     
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    Girl Evangelist at Capitol Hill Baptist Church!

    Washington Post, July 9, 1926, p. 10:
    In a short, spirited sermon, in which she denounced the devil as "a liar and the father of lies," 10-year-old Betty Weakland, of Los Angeles, Calif., said to be the youngest preacher in the world, conducted her first services in Washington last night at the Metropolitan Baptist church, Sixth and A streets northeast.

    Photo of Betty Weakland
     
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    I could be wrong, but I think he's being sarcastic, if God defines marriage between a man and a woman then God infact recognizes people as men and women, not all as one, but different sexes, which would be why He gave instructions to men and then He gave instructions for women.
     
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  18. Marcia

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    A woman evangelist is not the same as a woman pastor. I think the Bible is very clear on women not being in the position of pastor.
     
    #278 Marcia, Jan 7, 2010
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    No such thing as a woman pastor
     
    #279 Revmitchell, Jan 7, 2010
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    AMEN!!!:laugh::thumbsup::jesus:
     
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