Your View On Women As Pastors

...and? There is no prohibition against women knowing Scripture, just serving as elders.

 

Whether true or not, that fact does not support the idea that women should be pastors, nor is it an admonition thereof.

Again, to apply that verse without benefit of context, women cannot also therefore be teachers in elementary schools, college professors, police officers, judges, or elected officials.

 

Neither Paul or Jesus were pastors.
Paul was a missionary, one who planted churches, and then ordained others to pastor them.
Christ was the son of God.

 

No emotion just facts. Your language and accusation was unfounded and inflammatory.

You posts indicate otherwise.

Not relevant

You do not know this was anyone's motivation. He never said it was and it is not the only option. But it is telling of your emotion and prejudice.

 

I have no prejudice against America. Dispense with the false charges.
If I was prejudiced against Americans, why would I have married one? :tonofbricks:

 

Maybe your part of a Canadian plot to take us over -- one at a time.

:wavey:

 

In the not to distant future we will look back on the widespread prohibition against woman pastors in much the same way we now look back on slavery - what in the world were we thinking

 

Oh please...

What's next, a Hitler reference?

There is NO comparison: antebellum slavery considered humans of one race sub-human property, with all the attendant ills such thinking implies.

Choosing to stick to a close reading of the pastoral Epistles squares with reality -- Women are fine with male leadership, while many men are not fine with female leadership, and leave (and have left) the Church in droves as it becomes increasingly feminized.

 

Yes, as a matter of fact there is. For centuries scripture was used to justify slavery as is being done with keeping woman out of the pulpit based solely on their gender. We look back and in amazement and at times embarrassment that such things were taught from pulpits. Which I think will be the same reaction concerning women serving as pastors.

Your very wide sweeping statement that men are not fine with female leadership smacks more of chauvinism then it does any kind of biblical mandate.

 

You don't know much about slavery or men, do you?

 

Wrong again. You should be used to that by now. I am a man and I am of mixed race, lived in the deep south and experienced first hand blatant racism in the church.

 

Then you should know that equating women's access to the pulpit with slavery demeans slavery.

And that men follow men.

I was an Infantry Company Commander, a Scout platoon leader, and a tank Platoon Leader.

Lots of manly-men types there.

 

I am curious seeing as how your statement implies that you know a lot about slavery. Have you read the Slave Narratives. This is a collection of personal histories compiled by the Federal Writers' Project during the Great Depression of former slaves sill alive in the 1930's.

Here are the titles:

On Jordan's Stormy Banks

We Lived in a Little Cabin in the Yard

Before Freedom, When I Just Can Remember

My Folks Don't Want Me to Talk About Slavery

Obtain these books, read about slavery from people who experienced it. It is quite an education.

 

Demeans slavery - do you mean demeans how bad slavery was or something else. I sure it's some type of typo, you aren't proslavery?

 

Missionaries are not pastors? When does one go from being a missionary to a pastor?

Paul certainly pastored pastors. Take a look at Acts 20. If that he was not a pastor then what was he?

 

Then I bet you get all flustered when some higher ranking "gal" orders you to drop and give her 20?

 

An apostle is not a pastor, leading a flock.

 

No, missionaries are not pastors of churches. Paul was an apostle, not a pastor.

 

The comparison makes slavery somehow less terrible and evil than it was.

I worked on "the Pile" (the ruins of the WTC) as part of the Search and Rescue effort on September 14th & 15th, 2001.

Afterwards, when someone would say, "Oh yeah, this report is a disaster..." it would bother me, as I'd seen what a real disaster was, and the word lost a bit of its meaning being used in so trite a situation.

So when people use "slavery" or "the Holocaust" as equivalent to modern day perceived ills, I want them to stop and think -- "Are you sure?" because 9 times out of ten the situations are nowhere near as terrible.