Your Weakness Should Drive You To God

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  1. Thousand Hills

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    Here's a short sermon excerpt from Bro. Paul Washer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BcGgLbvM64

    Thought he had some good points:

    -the amount of time spent in the word and prayer will show how weak we truly are. (iow, if we don't spend much time we are trusting in self)

    -we have to recognize how truly weak we are.

    -weakness should be a catalyst to spiritual power.

    -we are all weak, some use it as a an excuse for sin.

    -our weakness should drive us to God, our problem is we don’t recognize our need or we stay where we are at.

    -genuine Christians want to be something they are not yet, but we can’t just wait around, when we sin we have to run to God and believe his promises, believe we are out of condemnation, realize we are free!
     
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    Ready for this, THills?

    I agree! Your synopsis is exactly right, though I think the time spent in prayer and study is relative, also. Some can get a lot out of a little, and others need a lot to get a little.

    Now, whether I would agree with the way Washer says this or not is another matter. I don't have time to listen to him right now. As I've said before, Washer's preaching strikes me as being borderline works salvation, but I'll come back to this when I've got the time and actually hear what he says. Thanks for posting.
     
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    Must be my lucky day, I'm off to buy some lotto tickets as we speak. :tongue3:

    Seriously though, I hope you take the time, just a brief snippet, but maybe you will view him a bit differently.
     
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    I can't disagree with anything he said. He's spot on, with everything.

    The question I'd have for those who agree with him, but who deny persistent sin can exist in the body of the believer, is, "How is this 'sinning the same sin over and over again' not that very persistent sin you don't believe can exist in the Christian's life?"

    I don't mean to throw cold water on the moment. I'm impressed with Washer here, for the very first time ever. I've watched other videos of him. I've seen him preach where it appears he implies willful sin is not possible in the Christian, and therefore willful sin in one claiming to be a Christian negates the truth of their statement.

    So I wonder, what gives with this video?
     
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    Dconn, I can't answer for PW, but I've heard him say that he doesn't describe himself as a Calvinist but a 5 Point Spurgeonist.:smilewinkgrin: Anyways, here is an excerpt from "All of Grace" by Spurgeon, and I believe its consistent with what PW is saying in the above sermon snippet.

    http://www.spurgeon.org/all_of_g.htm#Concerning Deliverance from Sinning

    Part I

     
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    Part II

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    Hebrews tells us to put away those besitting sins that hinder our walk with Jesus, so how can a Christian NOT have some serious sin issues at times?
     
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    Probably, but maybe not!

    One would think that the thing of weakness within us would, in fact, push us closer to God, but, often, the weak link in our chain is the very thing that causes us to return to the sin nature within us!

    I think, because I have seen it so often, that when the flesh, usually with the help of the devil, exposes itself and a weakness, let's say for porn, raises it's ugly head, until that weakness pulls the believer all the way down to the absolute rock bottom of the sin, the weakness grows stronger with each fall to its call, and a person can spend years caught up in falling to the calling and repenting only to fall to the call again!

    Once the person hits the bottom and sees how they need to get back to God, their weakness catapults them in the direction of the sin.

    It shouldn't be that way; I agree, but the sin nature within us is a monster to reckon with, which is why I like to use this cartoon to show the moral, spiritual quandary a believer gets caught up in when sin becomes their weakness! IMHO of course!

    [​IMG]
     
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    I was taught years ago when a man sin's God turns his face against him or God withdraws from him but this is not so. Man is like Adam & Eve, which hid themselves from the Lord after they sinned. Our sin's blind us to the love of God in Christ Jesus. The Lord said he will never leave us nor forsake us but Satan would have the saved man to believe when he sin's God slams the door in his face. The man that believes in backsliding will at once set out to make himself better by good works to be accepted by God again.
     
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    The truth is there are very few sins a Christian commits, that isn't repeated over and over. If this weren't true then Christians would be righteous and wouldn't need to die daily. Paul died daily because he admitted he wasn't righteous but, was wretched instead.
    Aren't we all wretched?
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    I agree....

    .... and I base that on personal experience. If anyone was ever prodigal, it was me, and once I reached my spiritual bottom and yearned to return home, in shame, I spent another period listening to the enemy tell me that the Father was all but finished with me, wiping HIs hands of me.

    Still, I mustered up the courage, and said to myself, I will return to Him as a sinner, from which I once came, and I went back to him only to find myself being welcomed back, as if I had never gone. I did't have to start over, I just had to move forward from the place I was at when I left, and God was able, once again, to work in me, not as if I were a novice, but as a seasoned child of God!

    I know many say thew prodigal son story was meant for another application, and not for individuals who went out on their own and came crawling back, but, my return to the Father, with the idea of starting over from the bottom and orking my way back up, was dashed by his love and happiness upon my return.

    Was he disgusted , grived, hurt, angry, upset with my fall from grace. YES! Did He forsake me even though I forsook him, NO! And He was waiting, almost as if He knew I'd be back,to elcome me back amost as if I'd never been gone!

    That is the unconditional side of God's ove. The kind of ove that is AWESOME and unexplainable. After all, if I were God and someone left and returned, they'd be sent to the bottom floor and have to prove themselves worthy, again! But I'm not God, and He taught me a remarkable lesson that day! Of coure, you'd have to have been there to truly understand what I am saying! Shalom!
     

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