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Zwingli was also a murderer

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Nazaroo, Jul 4, 2011.

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  1. Nazaroo

    Nazaroo New Member

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    "If your brother sins against you 70 times 7,
    and repents, forgive him."

    You need to start calling the local hookers now.
    Your soul is already in danger and on the line
    for not calling them to repentance. (Ezek. 3:18)
     
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  2. David Lamb

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    True, but Matt wasn't asking about human beings forgiving other human beings. He asked: "Does it make a difference to my salvation whether I physically then die on Saturday or Sunday?"
     
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  3. Nazaroo

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    "When I have said to the wicked,
    'You will surely die', and you give them no warning,
    nor speak to warn the wicked from their evil way,
    to save their life,
    the same wicked person will die nonetheless from their iniquity;
    but their blood I will require from your hand."     ​
    (Ezek. 3:18)

    This is no joke.

    You haven't time to hire the local hookers.
    You already know too much to be off the hook for their sin.
    You have just enough time to speak to them and warn them.
    There won't be time to sample their wares.

    "You are a teacher in Israel, and you don't know these things?" (John 3:10)

    Is this not answer enough?
    How much scripture do we need, to know what to do?
     
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  4. Matt Black

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    You still haven't answered my question: will I forfeit my salvation depending on whether I die on one day or another?
     
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  5. Nazaroo

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    The answer is plain as day.
    You've already forfeited your salvation,
    if you don't take immediate action to save them,
    knowing they are in immediate danger of judgment.

    If you stand by, while a blind man walks toward a cliff,
    and you knowingly say nothing, and he steps off the cliff to his death,
    you are guilty of murder my friend, even if you haven't moved an eyelash.

    "Jesus' time is not yet, for events surrounding him are predetermined, but
    "Your time is anytime."

    If you contemplate hiring some hookers,
    instead of contemplate saving their lives,
    you are already in danger of judgment.
    God is fully entitled to say right now:
    "Fool! Right now I require your life!
    Now who's unrighteous money will this be,
    that you were going to use to hire a hooker?"     (Luke 12:20)
     
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    Sometimes we are destined to get the wrong answer,
    because we are determined to ask the wrong question.

    That 'destiny' will always be misfortune.
     
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    Isn't my salvation down to Christ, not me?
     
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    Why not ask Jimmy Swaggart that question?
    He may have found mercy,
    but mercy by nature can never be taken for granted.
     
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    Personally, I'm a Christian, not a Calvinist.

    I don't want to be told on Judgment Day,
    "Jesus we know, and Paul we know,
    but who is Calvin?"
     
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    Same here. And? What about Christ? The clue is in the name: Christian.
     
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    Naz....so tell me, do you feel that I worship Calvin now? Is that what you "Think"?
     
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    I had to re-read the thread to understand what Nazaroo is saying. I think understand now that he catagorizes sin by the consiquence of whether or not it leads to a physical death or not. Is that right? Thus its not the eternal consequence so much as the temporal consiquence of sin that catagorizes sin. Is this correct?
     
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    Good, then how do you categorize the duty of a guy in the service of his country? Does that also classify as murder? Is it OK to put a round through the head of your enemy? Just curious.
     
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    I don't know. However, I suspect Nazaroo would say its irrelevant because it has nothing to do with his catagorization. Which I'm still trying to figure out how he actually does it.
     
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    Kinda like nailing jello to a post....that analogy was not lost on me LOL:thumbs:
     
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    If what Naz says is correct, it's weird how so many Christians I know who have backslidden in one form or another are still wandering around living and breathing.
     
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    I'm a little slow this morning. It's never wrong to put a round through the head of your enemy. I prefer hollow points since that is much more messy than standard full metal jacketed rounds. In my theology I hold to the three "G's" of doctrine.

    1) God
    2) Guns
    3) Get the heck of my property!!!!!
     
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    That is a conundrum. And you aren't even allowed to get hookers!
     
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    How many people die from heart disease due to bad personal behavior? Or cancer? Or AIDS? Or liver disease? Or stroke? Or automobile accidents? (All due to bad behavior) Hmmm... That sure sounds like the temporal results of sin to me.

    WM
     
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    Surprised you didnt add Glock---perhaps as an addendum. Im old school 1911. In the olden days all 1911s were pretty much limited to ball ammo. The new ones though are less problematic.... get out on the range & pop of at least a 100 rounds...that will break it in nicely:D
     
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