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Obama, what happened to open debate and transparency?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by matt wade, Aug 9, 2009.

  1. matt wade

    matt wade Well-Known Member

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    Obama lied, plain & simple, and his flock does not care.
     
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    Obama lied and babies and old people will die.
     
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    As I recall some folks said last fall prior to the election that Obama was a Marxist and therefore a liar. But a number of people on this Forum supported this baby killer anyhow! What is worse after the truth becomes well known they still continue to support hem and his policies of death.
     
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    They support him:

    1) Because they hate you and want to see the gifts that God has given stolen and given to others. They want to see you deprived of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and yet they wear the specious mask of concern for the uninsured.

    2) Because they think they will be spared the hard time to come and rewarded with a life of ease. They are ignorant of the lessons of history that many of Socialism's political prisoners were those who fought to impose Socialism in the first place.

    3) They've been bought, and THAT is why despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary they still parrot the Party line time after time after time . . .
     
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    He has no plan to kill old people and you know that Rev. You are intentionally spreading a lie.
     
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    An admission by LeBuick that because of Obama babies will die.
     
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    Did you ever believe the "transparency" smoke?

    Don't forget that the White House says that Obama's rhetoric shouldn't be taken seriously.
     
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    His health care plan will withhold treatment for the elderly based on the greater good of all and cost effectiveness. And yes unborn children will be ripped limb from limb.
     
  10. matt wade

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    Of course I didn't, but I've never been a supporter of Obama.

    I'm interested to hear what the Obama supporters think of these failed campaign promises. Is it OK with them that he isn't living up to what he promised? If it is OK, why? If it's not OK, are they honest enough to admit it?
     
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    Rev, why do you stick to this. If this is true, it is true in the same light that treatment is restricted today by private insurers. Why hold government to a different standard than the insurance companies.

    And if Howard Dean was right today, he said in his 10 years of practice he never had the government call about what Medicaid or Medicare would cover but he constantly fought with private insurers.
     
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    I admit he is doing nothing to stop the unborn from being aborted but I don't think he personally killed any fetus and he hasn't signed any legislation to the effect.
     
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    Luk 12:16 And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully:
    Luk 12:17 And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits?
    Luk 12:18 And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods.
    Luk 12:19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, [and] be merry.
    Luk 12:20 But God said unto him, [Thou] fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?
    Luk 12:21 So [is] he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.

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    You can keep your money and not share it with the needy for a little while.....
     
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    Great site by the way, looks like I found more artillery for disputing the conservatives twisting of facts. J/K, but it is surprising to see some of the false stuff being propagated by both sides of the isle.

    Great site...
     
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    One of Obama's first acts in office was to pay for oversea's abortions.

    This has been pointed out to you many times here on the board.

    Now how about adressing Obama's problem with transparency?
     
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    There is nothing for me to address. It is a fact that congress isn't on CSPAN. Not that I would watch them but they are not there. And he has yet to get all these sites working where we can see where all the money is going.
     
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    Anyone who campaigns and promises 'more transparency' but seals all records of his own acheivements, birth certificate, etc..... is a liar. The transparency he talks about is working one way...... he and his handelers can know more and more about us. What is sure is that we are following the way of the UK, which is one of the most survailed society which has ever existed... with proposals to install cameras into the homes to insure that children are being raised right.
     
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    The main problem I have with President Obama is he has spent too much time sucking up to the republicans.
     
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    The Pharisees liked to judge people's giving. Like you, their judgement was based in ignorance.
     
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    LeBuick, if you are so disturbed by "both sides twisting the facts," how come I never see you complaining about lies of leftists? I'm not sure I've ever seen you say anything about a leftist lying.

    It's hard to believe you are against "both sides" doing this, when we've only ever seen you mention "one side" doing this.

    Furthermore...you will take a direct, inflammatory quote by a leftist (like the Pelosi "swastikas" quote) and somehow turn it into an attack on conservatives.

    If you are a watchman for both sides...what's wrong with your vision in your right eye? You know, being blind in one eye does screw up your depth perception...
     
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