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Fall Of The Republic

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by poncho, Oct 18, 2009.

  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    President Obama has brazenly violated Article 1 Section 9 of the US Constitution by seating himself at the head of United Nations' Security Council, thus becoming the first US president to chair the world body.

    A scientific dictatorship is in its final stages of completion, and laws protecting basic human rights are being abolished worldwide; an iron curtain of high-tech tyranny is now descending over the planet.

    A worldwide regime controlled by an unelected corporate elite is implementing a planetary carbon tax system that will dominate all human activity and establish a system of neo-feudal slavery.

    The image makers have carefully packaged Obama as the world's savior; he is the Trojan Horse manufactured to pacify the people just long enough for the globalists to complete their master plan.

    This film reveals the architecture of the New World Order and what the power elite have in store for humanity. More importantly it communicates how We The People can retake control of our government, turn the criminal tide and bring the tyrants to justice.

    More Here
     
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    matt wade Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the spamvertising....

    :BangHead:
     
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    poncho

    I have believed since I learned about Obama that his purpose was the destruction of the Republic. I posted as much last fall. Of course he builds what has already been accomplished, probably starting with the 16th amendment.
     
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    Poncho, I'm surprised that someone like you, that posts as much doom and gloom as you do, is not bunkered down in an underground shelter by now.(Then we would not get these TFH posts.)
    When will you realize that God is in charge, and not all these MEN that you are so AFRAID of?
    God's will, WILL be done.
    God did not create you to live in fear young man.
    He wants you to live a rich and fulfilling life.
    Not one in fear.
    God Bless.
     
  5. abcgrad94

    abcgrad94 Active Member

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    It's not fear to point out that our POTUS is violating our nation's constitution. Obama is way out of control. We the people have a duty to point this out and correct it, otherwise, our constitution is null and void and our country ruined.

    Don't stone the messenger for reporting it. Help fix the problem. We have elections coming up and need to take the opportunity to vote out the people responsible for all this corruption.
     
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    To say that Obama is an empty suit is giving him credit he does not deserve.
     
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    How is Obama violating the constitution?
     
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    The UN is not a foreign nation (state). Not yet.
     
  9. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    If I were living in fear I would be doing what the majority of you are doing right now.

    Running away from responsibility and making lame excuses (blaming others) for it. You, yes you have a responsibility to your fellow man and your country. Like it or not Jesus commanded you to occupy until He comes.

    He isn't here yet. This is your country and you have a duty to defend it from those who would destroy it.

    You show your fear by your willingness to partake in the evil of a corrupt government by going along with it and infering that those of us who do not are the ones living in fear. You seem to have it all backwards.

    And if you try to hide behind Romans 13 like so many others around here then you clearly show you do not understand the word "occupy".

    Take time to study this one word until you fully comprehend it.

    You, yes you like it or not are part owner of this country and yet you would let people come in here and trash it with out a fight? Would you let people come into your house and trash it like that and claim it is God's will?

    The way I see it you got two choices. Either man up and start standing up for your country or get out the way of those of us who are.

    The UN is a anti American godless foreign power bent on world government. The ony way it can realize that goal is to destroy the USA and enslave us all under a global tyranny and "president" Obama is okay with that. How is he violating the constitution? He's doing his level best to destroy it. If that isn't a violation I don't know what is.
     
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    Saying that the President is violating the constitution by doing his best to destroy it isn't a valid argument. It's begging the question.
     
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    One must know what the question is before he can beg it. Sound familiar?
     
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    You have got to be kidding.
    1. How about the appointment of inept, anti-Constitutional, and dishonest czars with cabinet level power to avoid Senate approval?
    2. How about nationalizing the automobile, financial, and medical industry without Consitutional authority?
    3. How about being elected to the Presidency without proof of birth?
    4. How about redistributing income without Consitutional authority?
    5. How about aiding our enemies like North Korea, Iran, and Cuba by appeasing them? Treason as far as I am concerned.
    6. Trying to shut down one particular news outlet that does not agree with his insane policies, violating freedom of the press.
    7. Bold face lying to the American people about the negative consequences of nationalized health reform
    8. Spending nearly one trillion dollars on a bailout of the economy that is not authroized by the Constitution.

    Shall I go on.
     
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    Please do. Unfortunately, I think you have probably just scratched the surface!
    :thumbs::BangHead::tonofbricks::praying:
     
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    How much time do you have?:laugh:

    Our current situation with Obama reminds me of the children of Israel begging to have a king. The prophet Samuel tried to warn them what would happen but public outcry won out. The same is happening in the US. People screamed for "change" and now we're all going to pay the piper for it. Some of us see the evil approaching, but the chant for change has drowned out the voices of reason and common sense.
     
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    These are all extreme right lies. Appointment of "czars?" He appointed some people to participate in his administration. Every president in my life time has done that. Nationalizing the industries you mentioned happened during the GW Bush administration. Get your history straight.

    Obama presented his proof of birth. You and other extremist rightists are just after Obama in the same way as you were after Clinton and Kerry (swift boaters for lies). How has Obama redistributed income. The income tax did that but I doubt that even you xan claim that Obama started that.

    What you call appeasing our enemies I call negotiation before invasion. Bush's policy was to never negotiate just invade. I don't support that approach and I don't see how any authentic Christian could.

    Obama has not tried to shut down any news outlet but you and all your right wing extremist buddies have claimed that the entire media is biased against the far right.

    Please be specific about what Obama has or has not said about health care reform. Anybody can make a remark like this without proof.

    Obama continued the Bush policy of spending to jump start the economy. This whole economic crisis started on Bush's watch. It would have been great if we had had a competent president during the last 8 years. Maybe we wouldn't be in this crisis if that had been the case and Obama wouldn't have had to spend huge sums of money to bail s out.
     
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    Hopefully people are beginning to wake up but it may be too late.:BangHead:
     
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    What is the question?
     
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    Have you ever read the Constitution? Did you pass American government and history in high school?

    First of all, what does being or not being a Christian have to do with those like you who agree with appeasement? It really worked well at the start of WW2 didnt it? (sorry, there we go with the history again). Or at Yalta? (that was after WW2, which stands for World War 2 1941-1945).

    Your remarks about health care are baloney, and you exaggerate a crisis that is not there, even if it was, it still lacks Constitutional authority as a governmental solution. As I have told you before, at the time I was raising my family, I had a high school education. I paid for my health insurance, paid off my house, paid for my kids college with no college loans, and am now retiring at 57. I am starting another career, but that is not the point. The point is, with a knowledge of simple additon and subtraction, anyone can manage money. For example, if your health insurance premium is very high, maybe you do not go out to eat, buy lots of Christmas gifts, or go on vacation. It is quite a simple principle.

    For those that cannot do that, it is not my problem or job to balance their check book. If you want the thrive on a redistribution of wealth, maybe you should move to Europe.

    One thing about your posts amaze me. You seem very good at posting in the theologcial sections, but not these. Why is that?
     
  19. poncho

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    Some months back I sent you a private message regarding some information I presented in a Study of the Book of Revelation in the late 90's. I am not a conspiracy nut but I am posting part of that info now as it seems pertinent to the above You Tube message. The remarks were related to the identification of the Beast that rose out of the sea.


    There are other events happening on the world scene at present that could eventually take on the characteristics of the beast. Recall once again our original definition of the beast:

    The beast out of the sea is those groups or organizations of the world’s political, social, or economic structure that are in opposition, either overtly or covertly, to God and His rule.

    At the present time there is a growing trend for corporations to become multinational. Corporations are by their very nature amoral. The bottom line is profit. It is often the case that to make a profit “the end justifies the means”. It is not beyond reason that as multinational corporations increase in number their economic power will dominate the governments of the world.
     
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