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Any Concerns about the Content of Fast Foods?

Discussion in 'Health and Wellness' started by Benjamin, Dec 12, 2009.

  1. Benjamin

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    About fifteen years or so ago, I had some health problems that led us to seriously re-think the way we eat.

    I won't go into details, but one of the results of that is that we VERY rarely ever eat at fast food places.

    The food there is terrible. High sodium, artificial sweeteners, tons of sugar, the meat is notorious for chemicals and hormones...

    In all fairness, though, we live so far out in the country that the nearest fast food place is about forty minutes from us, so it really isn't much of an issue anyway.

    But I'm pretty proud that my family has both healthy eating habits and an appreciation for good food that most people seem to have lost.

    I don't think most people have any idea 1/10 of the stuff they're putting in their bodies. Do you really think it's such a big mystery why so many diseases have gone through the roof over the last twenty years or so? It's our diet. People in other parts of the world don't have the health problems we have, in part, because they don't eat the way we do.

    We're paying a very high price for convenience. Like the song says:

    If you paid attention, you'd be worried too
    You better pay attention
    Or this world we love so much might just kill you
    I could be wrong now, but I don't think so!
     
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    I won't eat at a fast food place unless we are dying and there is nothing else around. That rarely happens. I won't eat in the school cafeteria either.
     
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    Any Concerns about the Content of Fast Foods?

    Nope...not at all. I'll eat anything that tastes good...
     
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    I used to eat anything that tasted good (and I thoroughly enjoyed it!). Then one day about 10 years ago, I woke up and realized I had put on 50 pounds over the years. It took a year to get that weight off and I've been more selective since then.

    I do love to eat though.
     
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    I can't afford to eat out, which is just as well since I love all the fatty and fattening stuff. I have high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and diabetes. Because of those I'm on three medications permanently and have to watch my diet very closely.
     
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    My concern is FAT, all fast food is fatty. I do not eat fried food, or hamburgers. Rarely will I even eat grilled chicken, I'm sure they've found a way to add fat. I ask for no mayo when I do, then I add mustard.
     
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    The nearest fast food place is about an hour from us, so we don't go often (maybe 4x/yr). But when we do go, I enjoy it. I don't pig out. And actually, the portion sizes here are much smaller. But I do enjoy it. It reminds me of America. LOL!

    We eat rather naturally at home. Great foods, if I might say so myself.
     
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    Denny's restaurant here used to have a "Jalapeno Burger" and spicy french fries that I loved. I would go there once a month and treat myself. Then they quit buying jalapeno peppers, and I now have no reason to go there.

    I LOVE jalapeno peppers and buy a 64 oz. bottle of them on the first of each month, which will usually last to the end of the month--but not always; it depends on what all I put them in or on. I use them on sandwiches, in salads, in my meatloaf along with chili powder and hot Italian sausage, in my chili in which I also use the hot sausage, and in many crockpot dinners I make. Did I mention I LOVE jalapeno peppers? I also LOVE hot Italian sausage.
     
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    Moderation, moderation, moderation. If you're eating fast food more than several times a week, then there's a problem. But if you think that food is bad "just because" it's fast food, or that you're eating better "just" because your'e eating at home, then you're fooling yourself.

    The OP claim, btw, is very debated. The claimant claims that the burger doesn't decay becaue of "preservatives, processing, and the cows’ diet of genetically modified corn." This is, in fact, a crock. The beef bread products supplied to McDonalds are by companies that make those same meat and bread products available to you in the grocery stores. The OP claimant is Karen Hanrahan is a bit of a nutrition quack. If you don't believe me, I suggest you try the same. Buy a mcdonald's hamburger and leave it out. I guarantee you, the burger will go bad pretty quickly.

    A McDonalds Quarter Pounder with cheese isn't nurtritionally better or worse than a quarter pound burger on a bun you make at home.
     
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    About 13 years ago I was given a last minute rush job for an amusement park in which they were paying me $1,000. a day to get in done "on time". Upon completing one night, it was 3am in the morning and I had a few hours left to finish, but I was starving so quickly went to the only place open around (Dennys) and ate pancakes and eggs. The pancakes were really soggy but I ate a lot and fast. A half hour after getting back my head started spinning and I had to run outside and threw up (mostly liquid). When I finished at 8am I passed that spot on the way out and it looked exactly like the solidified contents of a can of Crisco. I will NEVER eat at Dennys again!

    Ahh, I buy a gallon can of sliced jalapenos at Sam Club, then pack them in individual masson jars for keeping.
     
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    AMEN to that!



    Yeah, I remember hearing about you and steak. BTW, if you ever get by AZ look me up and I will BQ you one you will never forget on mesquite and help you cheat on your diet. There is a nice home gym here if you feel guilty after.



    The fat content is insane! I don’t even consider french fries “real food”. I often will go after the grilled chicken too. Sometimes will buy two with just L&T, no mayo, and throw away most of the worthless bread, NO fries, and an unsweetened tea for a drink.



    OOOKaaay…
     
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    Moderation for sure, but the rest depends, as I try to improve on the quality of my food at home, fast food, in general and in the whole, is not even playing in the same league.



    Of coarse it is! Gotta defend the fast food industry and what’s allowed by the FDA! Nevermind or question the main reasons for disease and obesity on the rise in this country. ???



    Yeah rrriiiight! Well, I won’t eat most the typical “bread” from a grocery store either and seen that “stuff” set for months without spoiling while real bread will go bad in a week if not frozen!



    Then we need more “quacks” like her to call out the fast food industries policies that are all about the mighty $. There is no debate that the “convenience” of the fast food industry along with the “content” leads to much of the growing problem of obesity in this country while we sit idly by. Rather be part of the solution than the problem myself.



    Not hard to look up up and reiterate what the naysayers (those that willingly buy into the defense of poor Ronald) but...

    I might take you up on that prop. Then put it in a glass case and hang it in my gym.



    Afraid not, I use select and leaner beef, no preservatives, and put it on “real” bread. Tell you what, do an experiment, eat an Arbys roast beef sandwich for two or three days in a row and see what happens to your bowel movement. Once the boulders pass, and if you will accept the fact that the contents of these foods by the after effects are not normal, maybe you wil get on the “right” side of the debate instead of arguing for the sake of it, then maybe you will be a more willing advocate for this need to call out the FF industry and no longer be so full of it. ;)
     
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    That's a HUGE generalization. There's no much you can do to improve the quality of a McDonald's hamburger. It's .10 lb beef, a bun, and ketchup/mustard. Perhaps you could switch to a wheat bun, and to a turkey parry, but the nutritional improvement would be minimal.

    The problem with the fast food industry isn't what they serve, it's in what we buy. Instead of the hamburger, we opt for the double quarter pounder with cheese, and we supersize it. That's not the fault of the fast food industry, it's the fault of the fast food patron.

    People aren't obese because of primarily what they eat, they're obese because of primarily how much you eat.
    Disputing the claim has nothing to do with that. Disputing the claim has to do with whether the claim is genuine or not. There's nothing in a McDonald's burder patty that prevents it from spoiling like any other meat product. It's just ground beef, nothing else. The claimant claims it didn't spoil. That's factually impossible.
    Uhh, most bread you buy in the grocery stores goes bad in a week in not frozen, as well.
    I'm all for calling out industries. But I'm not for quacks making false claims while doing it.
    The food industry sells what people want. McDOnalds also sells salads and juice. Guess what? Most people don't buy them. That's not the fault of the fast food industry.
    Ill tell you what. On my way home today, I'll pick up a McDonald's burger, and I'll report the results on a daily basis.
    Do people even read labels these days? There are no preservatives in a McDonald's burger patty. It's just 100% beef. The bun is just a white bun, and the only preservative in it is salt.
    Since you're in the accusatory mood, why don't you just tell us what the SPECIFIC ingredients are in a Arby's roast beef sandwich are bad for you.
     
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    I can only quote my physician, who, working with me to keep cholesterol under control, characterized fast food generally as "garbage." That got my attention. We'll stop at such places when we are traveling, but that's it.

    As for reading labels, my diabetic wife and I read them carefully as we grocery shop, trying to minimize sodium and sugar intake. It can be done but it takes some time.
     
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    BTW, if anyone needs evidence that the "12 years old hamburger" claim is a hoax, just look carefully at the picture. The slogan on the wrapper says "I'm Lovin' it!". This is the current slogan, and wasn't introduced until late 2003. The slogan in 1996 was "Have you had your break today?".

    An obvious hoax.
     
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    The ingredients on my bread: (100% Organic whole grain wheat flour, Water, Honey, Cultured wheat, Vinegar, Sea salt, Yeast.) We have 5 major grocery chains nearby and I have checked all of them for bread; not one has less than about 12 ingredients and most many more, all have a large paragraph of tiny print, regardless of the very few that claim to have no preservatives. I have to buy my bread from a health food store (Sprouts) and I guarantee it will mold in about a week. First, I challenge you to find one loaf of bread to match mines ingredients in a regular chain. Further, I have bought bread from the regular stores many times to fill in between trips to the health food stores. It usually never all get eaten and sets in the cupboard until it gets thrown out; RARELY does one ever get molded, I’ve taken note of this for years, so I don’t know what you are talking about.


    Like I said, it’s all about the almighty $. I consider that lack of responsibility a fault. Personally, I wouldn't sell something to people knowing that it was causing these kinds of issues on a society just because they will buy it, money isn't everything to me.


    LOL, I will too, we can compare notes. I’m going to cook a home hamburger too and see what happens to it.


    I don’t trust their labeling, and what they’re allowed to claim as 100%, to me 100% means just that. Their bun compares better to a sponge than to bread in my book.



    I don’t know what they cure their beef with and believe it would be next to impossible to get a straight answer from the industry BUT I do know the after effects are common (Personal and family experience, and I’ve heard this from over a half dozen other people) and not normal or healthy. I raise pure breed dogs and if I try a new food the first thing I do is check for a healthy stool, shouldn’t maybe humans just be a little concerned about such abnormalities? Well, I for one, consider it a HUGE red flag.
     
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    Wouldn’t be so quick to brand her as a liar:


    http://bestwellnessconsultant.com/2008/09/23/1996-mcdonalds-hamburger-karen-hanrahan-best-of-mother-earth.aspx
     
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    Sounds lot like me except I was a lot dumber and just figured it out at the start of this year :) - down 35 pounds and hoping to just hold stable over the holidays then start working again.

    It does bother me a bit so I rarely eat at fast food places.

    But oh, the MacDonalds Christmas festive pies here are killer. Made in the apply pie pastry they are packed with custard and mincemeat, then, of course deep fried. I have good so far, shared one with my grand daughter and thats it :)
     
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    Yes, a lot and I have an expanding waistline to prove it!!

    I am trying very hard to get back to cooking from scratch but our one weakness is Starbucks. As Rob gets so very tired when we are out it is a very convenient place to sit him down with a coffee while I do the rest of the shopping.
     
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