Was Death for Man Only Spiritual in Genesis?

I believe God meant both physical and spiritual death.

When God killed the animals to make clothes for Adam and Eve, I believe He showed mercy and instituted animal sacrifice as a way to foreshadow Christ's sacrifice for sins.

peace to youraying:

 

It seems the Bible is clear that the death was spiritual and physical.

 

I went for not sure, as I really do not know. I just find it hard to grasp that man could not eventually grow old and die peacefully in God. In Him we live and move and have our being.
Flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God/heaven. Someone once said to me in a Bible study that when God said 'you will surely die' it apparently means a double death. 'In dying you will surely die' Back to the Book I suppose.

 

The other thread was different, did death exist in the earth before Adam and Eve sinned?? The key word here in this thread is "for man". Different context. Of course Adam and Eve's sin caused both spiritual and physical death for mankind from that day forward, not one poster denied that. However the death of Adam and Eve did coincide with the fruit of the Tree of life as God said that they could, after they sinned, eat of the fruit and live forever. So being cut off from the fruit of the tree of life mankind would not live forever.

A better question would be, was Adam and Eve created immortal that they could not die before the fall and therefore their children would be likewise born immortal as well??

Darren

 

While it is an interesting discussion, whether or not Adam and his posterity could be or would have been immortal is irrelevant. There is no teaching in the Scripture to this regard.

Not to put anyone down, but I think its just a stupid question that detracts from the Gospel.

Death in the world before sin, the death spoken as being physical...this is relevant to the GOspel.

 

Eve yielding to temptation; Adam sinned with deliberate intent; thus death entered the creation of God, both physical death and spiritual death. With spiritual death Adam and Eve also lost the unfettered ability to freely choose; that ability was now marred by the influence of their sinful nature. That nature which had been created upright [Ecclesiastes 7:29] was, because of willful rebellion against God, a nature that was in bondage to sin. When Adam and Eve sinned they immediately suffered spiritual death, alienation from God. At the same time those natural processes that result in physical death were set in motion and Adam and Eve slowly began to die.

Moreover, through the rebellion of Adam all successive generations of mankind have been heirs to a nature in bondage to sin, alienated toward God and subject to the wrath of God. The Apostle Paul tells us that death came not only to Adam and Eve but that, because of their transgression, death came to all mankind. All descendants of Adam and Eve are heirs not only to physical death but to spiritual death.

Romans 5:12, KJV
12. Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

 

There was no death in the world before Adam's sin

When Adam disobeyed---his spirit/soul entered into death--IOW--spiritually--he died--thus as Scripture reveals--we all are born into death--we are born spiritually dead

So--at moment of disobedience--Adam's spirit died

It took a little while longer for death to catch up with Adam's physical body, though---just like its gonna take death just a little while to catch up with all of us---physically

Genesis 5:5 teaches, "And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died"

 

I know this is the common view today, but I am not seeing this in Scripture, except maybe by inference. The death spoken of by God to Adam must be physical, otherwise it seems to me to render Jesus being the Second Adam, and the incarnation, meaningless.

Where, in your view, does the Scripture speak of a spirit being dead?

 

OK so world in Rom 5:12 suddenly means everything,, all life and animals, reptiles, marine life, every thing walks the earth, is the world. THAN Paul said "AND SO" death passed upon ALL men for ALL the World (that is, those in the world that COULD sin) have sinned AND THAT is the world Paul is talking about!! God so loved the world, that God loved all the cats and dogs and cows and sheep and goats and fish and wild life, birds and MANKIND that GOD gave HIS only begotten SON to save ALL life on earth (the WORLD)??

The gospel is to be preached in the whole world - to the farm animals, to the fish, to the wild animals, to the birds that ANY of them whom put their trust in Jesus can be saved!! That's how some of you are rendering world in Rom 5:12.

Darren

 

This is a good point.

I see this a lot these days, Bible words beginning to mean a whole lot more than what they should.

I mean, geez, even our pets are going to heaven! Is the Bible being sanitized to meet our personal distractive needs?

What ever happened to potter and clay with regards to men. Yet suddenly our pets are more important than human souls?

The Bible is about God and mankind. Are we losing this picture?

Who abides for ever? After all the world an everything in it is passing away.

Thats a quote from John btw.

 

My parakeets poop on me when I preach to them, and my dog tucks his tail too far and look at me with those doleful eyes I couldn't bear to tell him he's a sinner.

oh, my gawrsh, well, at least I tried, right ?

 

Maybe they might listen one day, repent and be saved

 

You forgot to add the insects. You know, termites, ants, cockroaches, flies, mosquitoes.

We don't really have to go far to preach the gospel, if that's the case, right ?

But the problem would be hornets, fire ants. Then there are the big creatures like the jaguars, the pumas, the cheetahs. Can almost see this preacher, he's been trained to sprint, and for good reason too, cheetahs can't seem to get rid of him, either they're running away from him, or he's running away from them.

But seriously now, this is beyond ridiculous.

 

Sport! You are way in over your head. You obviously have no idea what Paul was talking about or what I was talking about. Come up for air before you drown, mature substantially, and then have another try!

 

OK pinoy! Leave the fire ants alone. That is just going too far with this preaching stuff.