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Who really cares?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Jarthur001, Jan 15, 2010.

  1. Jarthur001

    Jarthur001 Active Member

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    I have not been able to spend much time on here for a while. You guys may have talked about this already. So forgive me if this is old stuff.

    I came across a book.."Who really cares?"

    BOOK LINK

    The writer points out that it is believers that give more than any other group.

    I wrote a column on it tonight...

    COLUMN


    Anyway, I have not read the book. I wonder if any of you have read it. I wrote my column based on what they said on the book site. If you have read it, do you think he gave a good argument? I mean, I think we all know that people of faith are the ones that give, but I deal with atheist a lot, and they deny this.
     
  2. Jarthur001

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    I guess no one cares... lol
     
  3. Jon-Marc

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    Only those who have read can have an informed opinion of it.
     
  4. Jarthur001

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    This is true Jon-Marc.
    :)
     
  5. billwald

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    Don't know anything about the book but I know a little about lying with statistics.

    For example, church going people may claim a larger charity deduction than non-church going people BUT most church budgets that I have seen distribute less than 10% of their budget on/for outsiders. Maybe 80% or more is spent on providing a nice comfortable building for themselves, a preacher who tells them what they want to hear, a youth pastor who entertains their children . . . .
     
  6. SBCPreacher

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    You don't like church, do you?

    If you do, then why do you have such a low opinion of it?

    How sad.
     
  7. billwald

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    I don't have a low opinion of the Church. I have a low opinion of the human race.
     
  8. BobRyan

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    That is not the case in my denomination.

    The Tithe money is sent outside the church to Pastors, Missionaries, teachers etc. A huge percentage of it goes outside of North America.

    The offering is seperate from Tithe. That stays in the local church (usually) and is always something less between 10% to 40% of what the church gets in tithe. So if a church gets 1 million in tithe for a year - it will have about 100,000 or 200,000 in local church budget on top of that.

    Pastors in North America - in this denomination - get paid between 30 something (in thousands) and 50 something depending on the region and the size of the church. That money goes back to them from the central conference -- it is not determined by local church boards or by what they do in church. So when they preach on a topic, or raise funds or engage in a building project - they get no change in salary for doing it. And if the local church does not like the message - it also does not affect the salary of the pastor.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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  9. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    Dear Bob, is that 30/50,000$ per month or annum?
     
  10. billwald

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    Bob, which denomination?

    Most traditional Plymouth Brethern Churches don't have a paid preacher and maybe 70% or more of the offering goes to missionaries.
     
  11. BobRyan

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    30,000 - 50,000 per year.

    per month would be astounding for us. Beyond all belief.
     
  12. BobRyan

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    Seventh-day Adventist.
     
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