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New American Bible?? (Not the NASB)

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by annsni, Aug 5, 2010.

  1. annsni

    annsni Well-Known Member
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    What can you tell me about it other than it's a Catholic Bible. :)

    My daughter is going to a Catholic college and needs it for one of her classes. I'd like to have a little info on it and I honestly have not used it since I was a kid!
     
  2. Rippon

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    I just took it down from the shelf last night and was paging through it. The translation is solid. It's not too different from the NIV -- it's a mediating translation -- in between a formal and a more functionally equivalent version. Its wording is sometimes a little stiff.
     
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    Ann, I know this is off topic, but maybe you could start a new thread. With your daugher going to a RC school, some ?, 1) why 2) is she allowed to witness, 3) ect
    thanks
    Salty
     
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    The NAB is about as close to the NIV as you can get without it being the NIV. Although it is the approved lectionary bible for Catholics in the United States, it is not well received by the Catholic faithful who tend to prefer the RSV Catholic Edition or the older Douay-Rheims (sort of like the KJVO's around here).

    The footnotes are a lot more sparse than the NIV, NASB, etc., but those it dos have are decidedly Catholic. For example, beneath Malachi 1:10-11 it says:
    If it's not being too nosey, what school is your daughter going to this fall? I realize it's not like where I live with four fully accredited Baptist colleges in the state and many others in nearby states. She is going to an accredited school, isn't she? :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    I disagree with that last quoted sentence of yours. The footnotes are full and plentiful. The footnotes of the NIV are few and brief.

    Also, the footnotes rarely mention Roman Catholic dogma. One could go many pages without encountering any RC stuff. I may take the time to document that last item more at a later time.

    I looked at my snippets regarding ESV compared to NLTse in the book of Ecclesiastes. In 8 of the items the NAS was closer to that of the ESV rather than the NLT. In one case the NAS and NLTse bore a resemblance.

    I'll have a thread comparing the ESV to the TNIV for the book of Hebrews. I counted 16 occasions in which the ESV and the NAS looked very much alike. The TNIV and NAS were close enough in only 4 cases.

    I still think the NAS is a mediating translation -- but its wording runs along the same track as the ESV from what I have found so far -- not the NIV. (And we know that the TNIV and NIV are closely related.)
     
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    I hate to admit it but you're more correct than I was. I chose Colossians because of its brevity, and read all the footnotes--and they're pretty good. Two places contained Catholic doctrine (or perhaps I should say not exactly Baptist):

    1. The note to 1:15 ("firstborn of all creation") says, "Christ . . . now shares this new nature in baptism with those redeemed."

    2. The note to 2:4-23 says, inter alia, "They do not require circumcision (11), for in baptism their whole being has been affected by Christ (12) through forgiveness of sin and resurrection to a new life."

    I was somewhat surprised at the commentary on 1:24, which said nothing about the Catholic doctrine of offering up our sufferings for the benefit of those in purgatory.
     
  7. annsni

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    Remember Rippon that I'm talking about the New American Bible and not the New American STANDARD Bible.
     
  8. annsni

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    Well, my daughter decided to stay home for college (at least for now) so her choices do not include any Christian colleges. The closest to us would be Kings in the city or Nyack which is about an hour or two away from us depending on the traffic but certainly not commutable. So she's left with "secular" colleges. St. Joseph's on Long Island is a smallish school, well known for their education program and their ability to place their students after graduation. At the end of 4 years, she will have 4 certifications just from her Child Study major plus she will work to be certified to teach middle school math and will be fully trained in sign language so possibly being able to be placed in the local deaf school. Another great thing is that while St. Joe's is a private school, it's only $17,000 a year and she received an $11,000 scholarship so with the scholarship and other grants and aid, she will not have to pay a penny for school. THAT is a great push. :)

    So she's going to a school that is Catholic but they claim to not be Catholic. LOL - I have no clue how they say that with a complete Catholic bent, having a nun as it's president and having mass on campus every day. But that's OK. My daughter is quite strong in her convictions and she also knows that there's a great group with Campus Crusade there and we know the guy who runs it. So she'll be in good hands and certainly she will be witnessing in all situations she possibly can. She's really a great kid and very much like me and I thrived in Catholic school from 7th - 12th grades as a Christian. It certainly made me study the Word a lot!!
     
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    Sounds like a great mission field. I did not know better when I was younger but now I believe that it is a mistake for Christians to forsake secular (or non-IFB) colleges for their education just because they are "secular" or not IFB. Our world might be better off today if we had "stayed in and stood up" instead of "staying out and standing down".
     
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    That's none of our business.

    And there are many Catholic schools that are wonderful places for academics and dialogue.

    We have to get out of our rigid Baptist boxes sometimes. It's good for the soul...and the mind.
     
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    YES!!!

    We don't have to separate and withdraw from society. In fact, we are called to do otherwise.

    I was homeschooled during the huge public school exodus during the 90s, and I think now that it was a mistake.

    I also went to Baylor, where there are a lot of good Baptist and even more nominal ones.
     
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    It represents the very best in Catholic scholarship and is a very solid translation. I use it from time to time.
     
  13. annsni

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    It's a legitimate question and I had no problems answering it. I know that being a Catholic school would deter some from going but for us, it looks like it's the right choice and I know my daughter is solid. :) No need to worry about someone asking why we made the choice we did.
     
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    Yep. Both of my girls are/will be going to secular colleges. Our oldest daughter didn't really have much of a choice because she wanted to major in art education and our rule is that you go away to a Christian college or stay home and go secular. Since there are no good art education Christian colleges that would land a job, she chose to go to Adelphi University on Long Island. For Nicole, she could have gone away because there are good elementary ed programs at Christian colleges but she wanted to stay home with the family. So......

    I DID homeschool both of them through 8th grade but for 9th grade, they went to the public high school. It was an excellent choice for both of them and we know that God led us to send them back. As I said, both girls are very solidly grounded. VERY much so, so I have no fears of them in a non-Christian school. :)
     
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    Well, Catholic schools have a lot to offer and are often way more academic in tone and discipline. I've known a number of evangelicals that really thrived in those places.

    Best wishes.
     
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    Do you actually take the time to read my posts? I Am discussing the NAS. There is another thread that I revived from several years ago on the same version.
     
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    New American Standard

    The "S" is for Standard. I'm talking about the Catholic Bible that is not "standard". ;)
     
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    Sorry. I got those initials confused -- but those were my actual comments on the NAB.
     
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    OK thanks - Just wanted to be sure. :)
     
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