‘It’s Beginning To Look a Lot Like Russia…”

IN the name of security, our freedoms are stripped away. The saddest part is that Joe Q. Citizen is standing still for it.

 

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Well now you got another trillion you can hoist on the backs of our kids & grandkids......Well Done Washington, Well Done!

 

I haven't lost any freedoms guaranteed to me by the Constitution. Not even one.

Rockwell is continuing his own special brand of fear mongering. He has become what he thinks he is warning us against.

A fear monger.

 

Excellent, poncho! Thanks for posting this. :thumbs:

 

>I haven't lost any freedoms guaranteed to me by the Constitution. Not even one.

EXACTLY! This is the genius of the Constitution. The anti-federalists argued that in the long run, the listed rights would become our only civil rights and that is what happened.

The Constitution was designed by the rich people for the rich people and everything is going according to plan.

 

Compare the American Revolution and the Russian Revolution. Same thing happened in both. The Stalinists took control of the Russian Revolution same as the rich people in the US replaced the Articles of Confederation with the Constitution.

 

Have you flown on a commercial airline recently? Have you been searched yet?

If you have a medical condition that requires liquid medication, have you tried to take it with you on your flight?

Do you carry a weapon on you? Do you go everywhere with it?

How about street evangelism? Have you tried that yet?

We have lost a lot of rights, including the right to privacy. It can be embarrassing for us if we knew how many of us had an itch to scratch and knew that we were caught on camera. My wife use to monitor security tapes - interesting things can be watched on them.

Now, if none of this matters to you; then you may claim that you have not lost any of the rights you have under the Constitution. I'll bet good ol' Uncle Sam hopes that nobody thinks about these things. Too many changes at once would alarm the herd.

 

I don't recall hearing that the Stalinists required the ratification of the local governments before imposing their agenda.

 

Yes, it is a nuisance. But I am not sure this is a loss of freedom.

In 1969 there were 40 hijack attempts on US airlines, and 33 of them were successfully carried out. Due to increased screening for weapons (X-ray of carry-on baggage, the use of magnetometers) the number of successful hijackings was down to 10 by 1972.

When Libyan terrorists placed a bomb in unaccompanied luggage in 1988 and brought down Pan Am flight 103, the FAA began requiring that only luggage accompanied by a passenger aboard the same flight would be loaded. These were needed changes but they wouldn't stop a suicide hijacker as we saw in 2001. That is why we have even more intrusive screening, and of course nobody likes it. You say you have lost freedom, but might be howling if none of these changes had been put into place and hijackings had continued as they had in the 60's & 70's. Maybe you just have a better plan.

There are concealed carry laws now that we didn't have in the 60's & 70's. That sounds like more freedom to me.

Street evangelism is outlawed now? It is news to me. It seems to be thriving in many areas.

Surveillance cameras catch people scratching? Heavens!

 

Yep. I hope the American people wake up before it is too late, if it isn't already.

 

You do realize, right, that you did not rebut anything I said. You agree with the procedures TSA uses because you feel safer.

You don't care much about our second amendment rights being limited because we got a little bit of those rights back - and it was done by the individual staes, not the by the federal government. However, we still do not have the second amendment rights reinstated in total - we still have lost part of those rights.

If you try street evangelism in the "wrong areas," you see how they are limited.

Why should we have suveillance cameras at all? Why should we have people at WalMart deciding whether or not I look suspicious? You are OK with that, I guess, but hopefully you understand that not everyone is willing to be the classroom snitch, nor do we appreciate those who are.

If you are surrendering your rights to feel safe, then I guess you can claim that none of those rights have been taken from you.

 

Well it is a fact of life that certain measures have to be taken to ensure at least reasonable safety for airline passengers, or drivers sharing the road with drunks or unsafe drivers, or what have you. We can argue about where to set limits and never will all people be pleased. If you are threatened by the possibility of a patdown upon flying, or maybe being seen scratching on a surveillance video somewhere, then you are in for a real rough time. Maybe you should move to the Yukon where you can do whatever you want.

 

Well, I guess you are thankful for your safety at the price you are willing to pay.

I am not. Rediculing my points does not serve well for the conversion. I think you know what my point is, but it is much easier just to make fun of me.

"The right to be let alone is the underlying principle of the Constitution's Bill of Rights."
-- Erwin Griswold - (Dean, Harvard Law School - 1960)

 

You sure do whine a lot about imagined slights.

No I haven't lost any "rights" guaranteed by the Constitution. Not even one.

There is no right to "privacy" enumerated in the Constitution. You have no right guaranteeing you won't be subject to reasonable searches.

You have no guaranteed right to carry firearms in the constitution.

You have an active imagination. Why is it you want everyone to be as fearful as you are?

 

You are truly amazing Carpro. You will go against your own beliefs just to argue and be a grouch. :BangHead:

As long as the government doesn't pass a law against grouching and complaining you will be alright! :laugh:

 

I don't know about you all, but I don't have any activities which need to be hidden from the government or the public. Censored for because of social convention but not denied.