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What is up with this president?!?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Don, Mar 15, 2011.

  1. Don

    Don Well-Known Member
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    At a time when Japan is looking at nuclear reactor failures...he's scheduling golf games.

    At a time when the government is facing shutdown, and a recent memo indicates they're considering keeping the troops working without pay...he's videotaping his NCAA picks.

    At a time when the middle east is at its most volatile...he strongly condemns an Egyptian president who doesn't attack his own citizens, but is strangely not as vocal about a Libyan ruler who orders his troops to fire on their fellow countrymen.

    Frankly, I'm confused.
     
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    Brother, it's called "All About Yourself" Syndrome. Sad right? so who are you voting for next election.....any change ....this time "Change we can count on"
     
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    He also waited for the U.N. to condemn Gaddafi and waited for both British Prime Minister Cameron and French President Sarkozy to propose making a no-fly zone over parts of Libya. In short, this U.S. President has created the situation where the U.S. is no longer the leader of the free world. I think the world is in better hands with David Cameron leading than they are with Obama.

    He's in way over his head in foreign affairs and foreign policy matters, and I think he knows it.

    Oh, and let's not forget his ambivalence to the rising price of gasoline. AFAIK, he hasn't addressed that issue at all.

    He hasn't been on TV in a while. He's probably itching for an ego stroke. I expect an appearance on TV fairly soon.
     
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    That's because he's perfectly at ease with rising energy costs. It's part of his agenda.
     
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    What is Obama supposed to to about the Japanese Nuke problem? Go over there and get in the way? Didn't know he was a nuke engineer.
     
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    Play golf.

    Same thing he does about all sorts of problems.
     
  7. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    The Middle East point is valid, but then again we have been supporting dictators to get cheap oil for decades.

    On the other hand, what do you think the US president should be doing about potential nuclear failures in Japan?

    Do you really begrudge the guy picking his NCAA picks? Would you like him to fix the possible shut down by executive fiat, overriding the House, and then make his picks?
     
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    Roger, I'd like to respond...but in retrospect, I believe I may be in violation of Article 88, and therefore withdraw from this conversation.
     
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    I have been saying the same thing since the election. President Obama is, in my humble opinion, not qualified to be president. He is a puppet of the Chicago Machine. (I am glad I am not bound by Article 88 :) ) There is plenty to complain about, but playing golf and making NCAA picks are the wrong place to focus attention.

    The article goes on to complain about things like hosting the Stanley Cup champions and meeting the Taoiseach on St Patrick's Day. These are long term traditions that have become part of the president's public relations role.

    I do not understand the comments about the hurricane/tsunami/nuclear threat. What would anyone expect a US president to do about that?

    Both the Republicrats in the House and the White House have equal guilt for the budget crisis.

    I agree 100% on the dealings in the Middle East, but that us a decades long problem that is finally coming to a head. No president of either branch of the Republicrat Party has been willing to face the spectre of high fuel prices in order to deal with tyrants and dictators in oil producing countires.
     
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    They both certainly have room for blame but equal guilt is incorrect. The level of spending by the Democrats and this administration is far beyond anything else.
     
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    Did you EXPECT any MORE than what you see and hear from today's Oval Office?????????????:tonofbricks::BangHead:
     
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    Which recent GOP president would you call a fiscal conservative?

    My point was the current shutdown threat - both spectrums of the Republicrats are trying to score points at the expense of the people.

    I guess rather that picking his NCAA choices the president should just sign up to the GOP plan or force them to accept his by executive order?
     
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    Wasn't that the aim of Adolf Hitler???? Hosting the '36 Olympics and there a black American by the name of Jesse Owens beats his Ayrian White boys flatfooted!!!!!!!!!!!

    Then the rest went down hill from there----burning the Rhichstag and all???
     
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    You might want to go back and look at what I posted. I made no claim of fiscal conservatism in fact I said just the opposite. But neither does that put both isle's on equal footing.

    The shutdown threat needs to happen. The spending needs to be brought under control and is the left will not listen to reason then so be it. Quite frankly I do not think the cuts proposed by the right go near far enough. When you are broke you have to stop spending. Everything needs cutting including the Military. We need to bring our troops home. We just do not have the funds to keep them out there. All aid to other countries needs to stop. All domestic programs need to be severely cut. And the ill gotten health care needs to go away.
     
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    Would love to see what the president is supposed to do about the tragedy in Japan.

    On the shut-down crisis both sides are guilty of not budging. What should the president do to resolve the stand-off?

    And how does he solve the decades old conundrum of supporting tyrants and dictators in order to get their cheap oil.

    Support domestic drilling? Of course, but how is that going to help the $4.00 a gallon ($8.00 for us) petrol in the short term?
     
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    Agreed, but that won't suit either part of the Party. They will lose the special interest groups who pad their pockets and support their campaigns.

    The sogenannt conservatives know they can pull off the political trick without having any real impact - it a cute little show. The president is doing the same by 'standing up' to them. Both sides give their supporters a little show and nothing happens.

    So if the president caved into his supposed opponents would it be okay to fill out a bracket?
     
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    I don't think it is about special interests (which are the American People by the way) as it is the general electorate. The right is afraid if they go to far with certain cuts the electorate will backlash. The left is full of ideologues and want to destroy Capitalism to replace it with whatever you want to call it. It is not a show by any means. Both sides are for real.
     
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    And as long as the masses accept that it will go on unchecked, No matter which faction of The Party is in control spending increases, the state gets more sow-like, freedoms are eroded, and as long as momma pig feeds her sucklings nothing changes.

    Every president does the same frivolous things that President Obama is doing and the 'opposition' always complains about it and the government stranglehold on the people just gets tighter and tighter as the masses are distracted by, as Barney Fife would say, trivial trivialities.

    Lets take the points of the OP one by one.

    What should the president be doing about the earthquake/tsunami/nuclear power threat in Japan?
     
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    I'm sorry but to place both parties on equal footing with regard to spending is to just refuse to see reality. I was disappointed with the spending under President Bush but it pales in comparison to what has happened in that last two years. And seeing that both sides are for real has nothing to do with whether it will go unchecked. There is no correlation. Saying that they are for real is simply showing that they are both following a real agenda and they both want some sort of change. One side does not have the courage to make the needed changes and the other want to go so far in the wrong direction. To say that it is a show fails to understand the real agenda.
     
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    And because the masses believe that and have for decades nothing changes. The powers in Washington are politician/pragmatists. None of them on either side really wants what gets them votes. All they want is votes. If not - they would removes the roadblocks to third parties standing for office.

    It is just like the last scene of Animal Farm -

    In fact all of chapter 10 is very fitting for the US and most of the western world in 2011
     
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