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Dont All Modern versions use basically Same Hebrew texts?

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by JesusFan, May 27, 2011.

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  1. JesusFan

    JesusFan Well-Known Member

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    Know that for NT, use mainly either CT/MT


    Dont all use same hebrew text for OT though?
     
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    What NT translations uses the MT?
     
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    Doesn't the NKJV use it, in comparison to the tr greek text?
     
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    All of the commonly accepted English translations use the Masoretic Text (MT) as the basis for their translation.

    As generally noted in their preface most (including the KJV) occasionally depart from the Masoretic Text, using the Septuagint, Vulgate, Dead Sea Scrolls and other ancient sources to supplement portions that are otherwise unintelligible.

    Of course the Dead Sea Scrolls were not found until the 1950’s so were unavailable to the translators of the earlier versions

    Rob
     
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    NOTE:
    The abbreviation "MT" takes different meanings when used in different contexts.

    When used in an OT [Old Testament] context it means “Masoretic Text”, named for a group of Hebrew scholars in the 7th century after Christ that went to great lengths to preserve that which they had been given.

    When used in a NT [New Testament] context it means “Majority Text”, a text developed by collecting all available manuscripts (from all ages) and using the variant that the majority testify to.

    Rob
     
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    No... the NKJV is a TR translation that departs from both the Byzantine & MT many MANY times.
     
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    While the 1611 KJV merely departs from them occasionally.

    Rob
     
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    Actually... no!!!!

    The KJV departs from the TR more than the NKJV. But as the NKJV & the TR... the KJV also departs from the Byzantine as well as the Majority Text many times.
     
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    No one has a copy of the exact eclectic blend of Greek texts used in 1611. The NKJV group worked long and hard to try to immitate the exact same Greek text.

    As to the op, I would say all Old Testament English versions are translated from the Masoretic Text except Stern's "Complete Jewish Bible" which is a paraphrased OT from the Jews own English translation of the Tanakh or Hebrew Bible itself
     
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    Isn't it true that there are more than one version of the TR depending on the date it was put together and which person or group placed it together? Wasn't one version of the TR written almost as a reverse engineered text to match the KJV early editions.

    I visit a KJVO church because my daughter attends and it is interesting that we were given copies as gifts due to the anniversary of the KJV1611. I noticed immediately that something was missing. The Apocrypha. Like I always said, you haven't got a true 1611 clone unless you have the Apocrypha which was included without comment to the credibility between the New and Old Testaments.
     
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