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Americans ignoring conservative falsehoods about Obama and Israel

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Crabtownboy, Jun 13, 2011.

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  1. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy Well-Known Member
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    I thought this an interesting article. It shows that the American people are well aware of the foot-loose and fancy-free playing with the truth by the right wing. The right wing should take note and change more to telling the truth ... but I am confident they will not do so and it will hurt their efforts in the next election. Will it be a fatal hurt? No one can tell at this point in time, but it will hurt their efforts IMHO. I would be much more prone to sympathize and even support some positions of the right wing folk if they were more honest with the truth. Their blind opposition to everything not from their own group is a very unwise path to follow ... again IMHO.

     
  2. Max Fenster

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    Merely recognizing Palestinians as being human beings is a political death wish in DC. Forget fairness.
     
  3. Crabtownboy

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    I wish I could disagree with you, but, sadly, I fear you are correct. I have met a number of Palestinian Christians and they wish Washington would be more fair in the foreign policy. Also, they have told me some horror stories on how Israel treats them as both Palestinian and as Christians.
     
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    The Palestinian Christians I know find it both bizarre and heartbreaking that so many other Christians seem to side with their oppressors rather than with them.
     
  5. Crabtownboy

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    You are right. It seems that conservative American Christians view the Palestinian Christian as a non-human ... and those living in Israel are discriminated against on two counts, being Palestinian and being Christian.
     
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    Talk about playing fast and loose with the truth!!

    Talk about telling lies!!

    Crabby should be ashamed of this blatant falsehood!!

    Crabby can never provide one single instance of any Christian - conservative or otherwise - American of otherwise - that has ever said that Palestinian Christians are non-human.

    But of course Crabby won't see this post because he has me on "ignore" because he is tired of me calling him out on his hypocrisy.
     
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    Oh really(!)? That's a pretty strong accusation. Please give evidence to back it up.

    I thought you were better than that.
     
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    This post is just odd.
     
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    Here are example … the term non-human may not appear, but the attitude is there all the same;

     
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    In other words, Crabby has nothing again. :laugh:
     
  11. Matt Black

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    Why not therefore engage with the serious issue raised by the OP: what Good News do you have to bring to your Palestinian brothers and sisters?
     
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    It's the [Christian Zionist] Premil Sensationalists who tend to favor the concision over their fellow Christians.

    Not all conservative American Christians are Zionists and unmindful of the Palestinian Christian plight. An excellent article from 2004 (published BEFORE 'The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy' in 2006 by John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt):

    Forgotten Christians
    http://www.amconmag.com/article/2004/may/24/00013/

    Also:
    The Second Coming
    http://www.israelshamir.net/English/2ndcoming.htm
     
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    How do you get that as the issue of the OP?

    The "issue" of the OP is that "the American people are well aware of the foot-loose and fancy-free playing with the truth by the right wing."

    Crabby first needs to support that assertion.
     
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    The whole entire problem with this is that CTB took it hook line and sinker.

    Another foolish attack and prideful arrogance used to poke fun at Americans from across the Atlantic.

    I hope you feel like a real big boy now CBT. :thumbsup:

    Here, let me find an article that pokes fun at UK'ers.

    Naw, I'll pass.
     
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    I do know this. The Isralies would be fools to return to their pre '67 borders. Obama made an idiotic suggestion.
     
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    That's good to know,. But ISTM that it's the Christian Zionists who shout the loudest/ get the most airtime.
     
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    From the article 'Forgotten Christians':

    "Christians find themselves under the hammer of the Israeli occupation to no less an extent than Muslims, yet America—supposedly a Christian country—stands idly by because its most politically influential Christians have decided that Palestinian Christians are acceptable collateral damage in their apocalyptic quest."

    ....and that about sums it up (along with the gross misapplication of Gen 12:3).
     
  18. NiteShift

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    American attitudes towards the Palestinians are at least partially influenced by their reaction to 9/11.

    I worked with Palestinian and Lebanese Christians years ago. They bad-mouthed the Jews and Americans equally. Not much love lost there.
     
  19. Matt Black

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    Yes, well there might be a reason for that, mightn't there?
     
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    Oh really? Sort of like certain Irishmen celebrating the death of English maimed or murdered by the IRA? Please. :rolleyes:

    Some of my Lebanese Christian co-workers laughed when the Marine barracks was bombed in Lebanan, just real tickled by it. Crowed that, "Americans can't fight over there! They don't know how! haha!"
     
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