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Do You considerJohn Calvin To be a Good Systematic Theologian?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by JesusFan, Aug 11, 2011.

  1. JesusFan

    JesusFan Well-Known Member

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    If not, why would that be?

    Even IF you disagree with his teachings, wasn't he still a good to great theologian?
     
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    preachinjesus Well-Known Member
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    Absolutely, Calvin is the finest systematician of his age and in the top five in all the history of the church.
     
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    I think he was quite gifted and astute.
     
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    JesusFan Well-Known Member

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    Right after Jesus/Paul and Augustine?
     
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    preachinjesus Well-Known Member
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    Jesus and Paul weren't systematic theologians. Good try though. :)

    I'd say Calvin is in the discussion with Augustine, Aquinas, Duns Scotus, and Peter Lombard.
     
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    JesusFan Well-Known Member

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    Paul might get offended at that, as his Romans finest "theology" work ever written!
     
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    Martin Marprelate Well-Known Member
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    I would disagree with him rather strongly on the subjects of baptism and ecclesiology.

    For sure! That he could bring such a systematized view to the Scriptures so soon after the Reformation is remarkable, but today we stand on giants' shoulders and so we can see further than they (so long as we keep looking in the right direction).

    Has anyone read John Robinson's farewell sermon to the Pilgrim fathers? Well worth looking at.

    Steve
     
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    Steve O. I agree with your analysis of Calvin. :D
     
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    Paul was not a systematic theologian. The book of Romans is not a systematic theology.
     
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    This should not be lost upon us. Thanks for this. :thumbsup:
     
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    But Duns Scotus and Peter Lombard would not be in the top five as you apparently think in post #5.
     
  12. JesusFan

    JesusFan Well-Known Member

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    True in a strict 'technical" sense NOT systematic theology, but Closest to such in bible!

    And still the finest treatise on theology ever was written!
     
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