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Scholars seek to correct 'mistakes' in Bible

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  1. freeatlast

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    How does that have anything to do with the article?
     
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    To me it seems these folks interested in doing these things think they will stumble upon another truth contrary to the truth. To be fair, we are not certain if any of these scholars are lost or regenerate. At least I don't know what they claim.

    The Gospel is , to those who are perishing, foolishness (silliness and absurdity) but to those being saved it is the power of God. 1 Cor. 1:18

    Of course, I will be interested in their conclusions.
     
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    I would think that it would be hard to change the Masoretic text since it is so widely accepted by the Jewish community.
    It would be interesting to find the Hebrew text used for the Septuagint though.

    At any rate, we have the sure Word of God with the Textus Receptus and the King James. :thumbs:
     
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    same way with Critical texts and 'sure word of God" as in Niv/Esv/Nasv!
     
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    Just was saying doubt there would be many 'corrections" that modern versions would have missed!
     
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    From the article:
    Hopefully Jesus will have returned by then. :)
     
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    Copies of copies of copies tend to amplify additions (seldom deletions)

    No two manuscripts (all man-made copies) agree in every word, verse, detail.

    Two years ago I did my daily bible-reading/devotions using the text of the Dead Sea Scrolls . . and found they had some interesting omissions but mostly additions to the traditional tanakh (Hebrew Bible). Why? They had an agenda.

    Think of the Jehovah's Witness version. With their agenda they woofed and warped all sorts of phrases, verses, texts to support THEIR position. Same with the anti-Temple/anti-Jerusalem Essenes in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Same with Constantine's Byzantine scribes.
     
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    Additions to the Masoretic Text in my opinion, present the strongest case for the acceptance of the textus receptus.

    Let me explain:
    These additions to the original text were present well before Jesus time.
    If Jesus accepted these changes to the original OT text then perhaps it’s our definition of original that needs to be adjusted.
    Perhaps we should accept the textus receptus even though it may not represent the original writing of the author.

    Now I've got to admit I've never heard this argument presented by an advocate of the TR.

    Rob
     
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    Old issues. That's all!
     
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    But Jesus didn't use the Masoretic text
     
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    Havent read any of this thead yet, but the OP reminds me of the comical "Jesus Seminar" nonsense back in the early 80's, if I recall correctly
     
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    Scribes, typesetters and printers makes mistakes, not God.
    If scholars attempt to correct these man-made mistakes then that is good.

    Admitedly this could make matters worse.

    Of course, the underlying problem (which God has at least allowed) is that we don't have the original mss so we have to theorize about the differences and/or consequently develop a resolution methodology to determine the "true" text.

    One of the least credible of resolution theories (IMO) is "Onlyism" along with the "secondary inspiration" and "advanced revelation" sub-theories.

    The real answer (again IMO) is to be found in the "Preservation" of the text mss.

    Personally, I tend toward the Traditional Text (TR/MT) but with all due respect to others who tend toward the CT.

    It is, after all, a subjective matter seeing that we don't have the originals.


    HankD
     
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    There are no mistakes in the bible. God gave it by inspiration and promised to preserve it. Every word of God is pure.
     
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    But you will acknowledge that there are mistakes in all translations --though they might indeed be very minor. Translations are not the original autographs. All translations are fallible. However,we can trust them for the most part. Many modern translations are getting more accurate than ones done centuries ago.
     
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    I totally agree here, the more manuscripts we find and compare, the closer to the original text we will get, althought we will never reproduce the original.
     
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    Who determined the original copies of the original manuscripts???? The scholars of that day debated which books, mss, were acceptable or not.

    Was Barth on the right track that the word becomes the word when we experience it???

    Careful here.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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