1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Jesus Sin

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by psalms109:31, Aug 30, 2011.

?
  1. couldn't

    13 vote(s)
    61.9%
  2. wouldn't

    6 vote(s)
    28.6%
  3. could

    2 vote(s)
    9.5%
  4. sinned, put that there to get rid of uou on BB

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. psalms109:31

    psalms109:31 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2006
    Messages:
    3,602
    Likes Received:
    6
    I want to use this just as a poll for a thread that just started to see where BB stands on the sin issue on Christ, even the silent one's.
     
  2. convicted1

    convicted1 Guest

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2007
    Messages:
    9,012
    Likes Received:
    28
    The only sins attributed to Jesus were the ones He took upon His flesh, nailing them to the cross. He, Himself in the flesh, was sinless, spotless, blameless, pristine, perfect, righteous, and unblemished.
     
  3. psalms109:31

    psalms109:31 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2006
    Messages:
    3,602
    Likes Received:
    6
    I couldn't disagree with this.
     
  4. kyredneck

    kyredneck Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2009
    Messages:
    19,580
    Likes Received:
    2,893
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I liked the way Archangel put it, "He was and is impeccable".
     
  5. webdog

    webdog Active Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2005
    Messages:
    24,696
    Likes Received:
    2
    I couldn't vote as He could, but wouldn't.
     
  6. psalms109:31

    psalms109:31 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2006
    Messages:
    3,602
    Likes Received:
    6
    As an english person I can see your point, but for people like me, you would be in the wouldn't catagory the couldn't is the impeccable category.

    The could is the peccable catagory.

    I just wanted a poll someone else probably could of made better choices for the choices.
     
    #6 psalms109:31, Aug 30, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Aug 30, 2011
  7. psalms109:31

    psalms109:31 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2006
    Messages:
    3,602
    Likes Received:
    6
    Option

    I would like everyone to participate in the poll, if you have one of the selection.
    He wouldn't = He could but would not

    He Couldn't = impeccable

    He could = peccable

    or the last one choose and be prepared for the worst. The last one i had to think of a fouth choice.

    I don't want to influence anyone with my choice so will make mine at the end of the poll or it looks like it is finished
     
    #7 psalms109:31, Aug 30, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Aug 30, 2011
  8. DHK

    DHK <b>Moderator</b>

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2000
    Messages:
    37,982
    Likes Received:
    137
    Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: (1 Peter 2:22)
     
  9. DHK

    DHK <b>Moderator</b>

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2000
    Messages:
    37,982
    Likes Received:
    137
    The poll is not set up properly as it allows for only one answer.

    He couldn't as God.
    He wouldn't as man.
     
  10. psalms109:31

    psalms109:31 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2006
    Messages:
    3,602
    Likes Received:
    6
    The question I am tryng to use for the poll is mainly for the flesh and soul of Jesus with the Spirit of God residing in Him. Is there any on BB who think that the Spirit of God can sin?
     
    #10 psalms109:31, Aug 30, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Aug 30, 2011
  11. Greektim

    Greektim Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2010
    Messages:
    3,214
    Likes Received:
    138
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Little help here...

    If he wouldn't sin, doesn't the resultant conclusion lead that he couldn't sin (God contradicting himself and all)? I mean if he would never choose to sin, then for all intents and purposes he could not sin.
     
  12. psalms109:31

    psalms109:31 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2006
    Messages:
    3,602
    Likes Received:
    6
    Wouldn't is to me to have a choice to sin or have the ability and wouldn't and couldn't is not to have the ability at all to sin. Couldn't is like can't. Couldn't is like me jumping off the building to fly but can't. Wouldn't is like a bird who can fly but chose not to.

    Maybe i should of ask someone to set up a poll it looked good to me when i created it.
     
    #12 psalms109:31, Aug 30, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Aug 30, 2011
  13. Greektim

    Greektim Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2010
    Messages:
    3,214
    Likes Received:
    138
    Faith:
    Baptist
    But if you say Jesus' choice would ALWAYS be to never sin, then isn't that basically affirming that he can't? Otherwise, he would be contradicting himself and his decisions previously made.

    I think the question could be better suited if it was asked in the affirmative rather than the negative. Instead of saying Jesus could not/would not sin, you could put it simple, "Was it possible for Jesus to sin?" or something similar. Or maybe that doesn't help at all. Thoughts???
     
  14. percho

    percho Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2009
    Messages:
    7,326
    Likes Received:
    458
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Let's put the question in this manner.

    Did he have the authority, the ability and or the power to NOT

    become obedient unto death, even the death of the cross?


    If the answer is yes-----Y--therefore he could have but did not.


    If the answer is no------
     
  15. JesusFan

    JesusFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2011
    Messages:
    8,913
    Likes Received:
    240
    [
    [/QUOTE]

    Jesus FAR MORE than just a man with the Holy Spirit dwelling in Him!

    That makes him same as we are today if saved...

    He was/is God in human flesh, God adding the humanity of jesus Christ...

    Not co mingled/blended, but 100% God 100% man!
     
  16. psalms109:31

    psalms109:31 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2006
    Messages:
    3,602
    Likes Received:
    6
    Wouldn't

    Wouldn't be as He could of did what Adam did, but did not and wouldn't. That the flesh and soul was given a life to Himself and could of made choice apart from the Holy Spirit. That this is the way Adam was created and failed the same way as Jesus is when He was put in the world and won. That in Adam we die, and in Christ we win because of Him and what He did.

    We can't see Him that way for most see Him successful to see Him fail is imposible to see because He didn't, but that does not mean He couldn't to those who believe He wouldn't sin instead of couldn't.

    Those who believe in this post in that He couldn't than they believe it is impossible for Him to sin those who say He wouldn't believe He could but wouldn't.

    Wouldn't= could, but wouldn't

    Couldn't=impeccable

    could=peccable

    I am trying to make the poll as simple as i can?

    I am trying to show both sides of this subject without misrepresenting them, so they can be open to make the choice in the poll, and not make them out to be heritic and afraid to answer the poll
     
    #16 psalms109:31, Aug 31, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Aug 31, 2011
  17. JesusFan

    JesusFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2011
    Messages:
    8,913
    Likes Received:
    240
    Bottom line here...

    Jesus was GOD in human flesh

    Possible to be tempted, Impossible to ever sin!
     
  18. psalms109:31

    psalms109:31 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2006
    Messages:
    3,602
    Likes Received:
    6
    Jesus

    If Jesus did sin when tempted, He wouldn't be who He said He is, ultimatly that would be true. That doesn't change the view of those who believe He couldn't or wouldn't does it?

    What do you think wouldn't group to?
     
    #18 psalms109:31, Aug 31, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Aug 31, 2011
  19. preacher4truth

    preacher4truth Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2010
    Messages:
    8,121
    Likes Received:
    17
    He cannot sin, not He wouldn't sin.

    Even though He was incarnate, He still could not sin. He was still 100% God while He was man.

    To say otherwise is to drag God down to mans level, and to show a lack of understanding of His nature.

    God as "God" cannot sin.

    Neither can "God as man."
     
  20. Aaron

    Aaron Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2000
    Messages:
    20,253
    Likes Received:
    1,381
    Faith:
    Baptist
    :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
     
Loading...