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    2 Tim 3:15-16

    16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    17That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

    As we read and study the scriptures, God has been pleased at times to give us certain light and understanding on a particular portion of scripture; and as we feel the desire to testify to that Truth, it at times is difficult in placing it in any given Thread. So I would like to introduce a thread that is designed for varied Truth's of scripture, not really given to any certain subject, but yet its Truth the same.

    The first scripture passage i will begin with is 2 Tim 1:9-10

    9Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

    10But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

    What death is abolished, and what light and immortality is brought to light via the Gospel ?

    Now in a real sense Christ hath abolished even physical death, but that only to be the last enemy to be manifested as destroyed at His Second Coming, when it will be declared 1 Cor 15:54-55,51-52

    54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

    55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

    And at His coming, some Saints will have never tasted of physical death, which will indicate the abolishment of death physically vs

    51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

    52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

    But yet, even in this present life Christ by His death hath for the elect of God, hath abolished spiritual death, which by nature they are born dead in trespasses and sins Eph 2:1,5

    1And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

    5Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved )

    This being dead, is a death that Christ hath abolished. The word abolished is the greek word katargeō and means:


    to render idle, unemployed, inactivate, inoperative

    a) to cause a person or thing to have no further efficiency

    b) to deprive of force, influence, power

    2) to cause to cease, put an end to, do away with, annul, abolish

    a) to cease, to pass away, be done away

    b) to be severed from, separated from, discharged from, loosed from any one

    c) to terminate all intercourse with one

    Yes, for those whom Christ died and abolished death for, He for them causes spiritual death to cease, He puts an end to it, He annuls or abolishes it. Now How does He do that ?
     
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    Hath abolished Spiritual Death for the Elect !

    2 Tim 1:9-10

    9Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

    10But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

    Now because Christ hath abolished death in regards to God's Chosen, They must now as a consequence of what Christ hath done, they must be quickened from the dead and made alive, given Life !

    Eph 2:1,5

    1And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

    Now in the original the word quickened is not present, so it would be emphasizing, and you being dead in your trespasses and sins. Thats the effects of the sin in Adam, but now lets look at vs 5

    5Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved )

    This time Paul adds the words Hath quickened. This is the word suzoopoieo which means:

    to make one alive together , to cause to live, make alive, give life

    by spiritual power to arouse and invigorate to produce alive, begat or bear living young


    They are actually made alive together with Christ at the same time He was made alive from the dead, via His resurrection !

    A companion scripture would be 1 Pet 1:3

    3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

    Those Christ died for, He hath abolished death for them, and gives them Spiritual and Immortal Life, His Life !
     
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    Are you seriously attempting to teach that the elect were "actually" quickened "at the same time" Christ arose from the grave????????? Hence, the Ephesians and the elect today never were unregenerate at any time??????????

    Hence, When Jesus told Nicodemus that he "must be born again" that was a friviousl statement either because (1) Christ had not been resurrected yet and therefore he could not be born again or (2) God considered the resurrection as reality in his purpose and therefore Nicodemus was already born again?????????
     
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    That what Paul taught. Read it again :

    5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved )

    The greek word together is syzōopoieō:

    to make one alive together

    And they were seated together with Him in Heavenly Places vs 6

    6And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

    The word together here is the greek word synegeirō:


    to raise together, to cause to raise together

    2) to raise up together from mortal death to a new and blessed life dedicated to God


    You see, when Christ was raised from the dead, He was not merely raised as a private person, but as the Representative Head of a seed Chosen in Him. Thats why Paul uses the word together !

    Now, because they were actually in Christ at the time of His quickening, just like God says Levi was in Abraham when Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek Heb 7:9-10

    9And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.

    10For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.

    And like how they were in Adam when Adam sinned, this being in Adam was the basis for them being born Physically and Naturally as sinners.

    So, likewise, they being in Christ when He died and when He rose, they shall receive as a token of their union with Him, a New Birth, a Spiritual Birth. The Spiritual Birth or quickening is evidence that they were in Christ when Christ rose from the dead, Just like their physical birth was evidence they were in Adam when they died to God and became alienated.

    So Peter teaches it as being born again by the Resurrection of Christ from the dead 1 Pet 1:3


    3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

    This would not be True if Eph 2:5-6 were not True. The word together in both of those scriptures are key to understanding this Truth. I am not going to argue with you about it either, you can either receive it or you cannot !
     
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    Great! What a relief! Don't tell anyone they need to be born again because they already have been born again and you cannot be born again twice.

    Wonderful, you can straighten Christ out in John 3:3-7 teaching the falsehood that the elect still need to be born again literally and actually just as they were literally and actually born of the flesh - Isn't that the comparison that Jesus used in John 3:6? What is "born of the flesh is flesh but what is born of the Spirit is spirit"? However, you claim we were already "actually" born again "at the same time" Christ was raised.

    You confused purpose with fulfillment, eternity with time, and representation with actual and personal actions.

    This text says we are already IN HEAVEN in the same kind of representative capacity with Christ. Are you going to suggest that we are ACTUALLY and LITERALLY already in heaven already glorified to????
     
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    Your complete doctrine of ACTUAL spiritual union is false! We were no more ACTUALLLY justified in Christ before the beginning of the world than we are NOW ACTUALLY seated in Christ in heaven:

    5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
    6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:


    If we are not ACTUALLY now in Heaven in Christ we were not ACTUALLY born again in Christ before the world began or justified ACTUALLY in Christ before the world began or ACTUALLY called in Christ before the world began!

    Your doctrine is false - give it up and embrace the truth of God's Word.
     
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    The Gospel brings this immortality and life to Light !

    2 Tim 1:9-10

    9Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

    10But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

    The evidence that Christ has abolished death, that is spiritual death for all whom He died, and has given them Spiritual Life, it is then Christ sends His Gospel Preachers with the Gospel to them that have this Spiritual Life Rom 10:14-15

    14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

    15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

    The Preacher is sent by God to those who will Hear. Remember Paul says this Acts 28:28

    Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.

    They will hear it because through Spiritual Life being given to them already, their spiritual death having been abolished by Christ, they have ears to Hear the Gospel of their salvation sent to them.

    And their believing, their Repentance from dead works gives brings immortality and life to Light. The word light is the greek word phōtizō and it means:


    to bring to light, render evident

    a) to cause something to exist and thus come to light and become clear to all

    So the Faith and Repentance of a Hearer of the Gospel that was sent to them, gives evidence of them having Eternal life..

    So Jesus says Jn 5:24

    Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

    Their hearing and believing gives evidence of #1 They have been passed from death unto life [ Because Christ hath abolished their spiritual death 2 Tim 1:10] and #2 That they have Immortal of everlasting Life..
     
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    Stop Running from the question! Are we ACTUALLY in heaven in Christ or only REPRESENTATIVELY so?

    By Purpose before the world began we were "in Christ" REPRESENTATIVELY by design/purpose/decree but not ACTUALLY so. The same with "justified, called, glorified.
     
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    Repentance and Faith are New Covenant Commands !

    Acts 20:21


    20And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publicly, and from house to house,

    21Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Repentance towards God and Faith towards The Lord Jesus Christ are New Covenant commands, given to those who have been given a New Heart and New Spirit Ezk 36:26-27

    26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

    27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

    It is God the Holy Spirit who speaks the command within the New Heart, and it results in a New Gospel obedience, for the command is just as sure to produce the desired result of obedience as God's command of " Let there be Light "

    The obedience to do God's commands in the Covenant are sure and promised in vs 27 God will cause them to walk in His Statues, that is walk by Faith and they shall keep my Judgments and do them. Thats Repentance and Loving the brethren.

    Here are New Covenant Commands 1 Jn 3:32

    23And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

    They shall do !
     
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    Covenant Blessings are Faith and Love ! -

    Covenant Blessings to those Christ died for are Faith and Love. Notice Paul's Testimony as one that testifies that Christ died for him Gal 2:20

    20I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

    Now he also wrote that the Grace of God was abundant toward him with Faith and Love which are in Christ Jesus our Lord. 1 Tim 1:12-14

    12And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;

    13Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

    14And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus. [ See Rom 5:20]

    You see Faith in God,in Christ Jesus, and Love to God and Christ Jesus, and other believers are bestowed upon or given to each elect vessel of mercy.

    This Love to God [vs 14] was Promised as a Covenant Blessing to the Covenant People of God centuries before Deut 30:6

    And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.

    This Promise to circumcise the hearts of the Covenant People and their seed, has been fulfilled in The New Covenant in Christ's blood. Matt 26:28

    28For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

    All the Promises of God, even this one to circumcise the heart to Love the LORD thy God, find their amen in Christ 2 Cor 1:20

    20For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.

    Now, A Heart to Love God and Christ and to believe in God and Christ[See Rom 10:9] is to the Glory of God..and they flow to God's elect from the Covenant..
     
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    Covenant Blessings are Faith and Love ! Cont

    Faith is promised as a result of the death of Christ, that is, to look [in faith] to Him whom they have pierced Zech 12:10


    10And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

    Notice that it is stated that I will pour out the Spirit of Grace upon the House of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, for these are spiritual and typical designations for the tabernacle of David, and The Church and includes the gentiles Acts 15:16-17

    16After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:

    17That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.

    Hosea 3:5

    5Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.

    The gentiles upon whom My Name is Called, that is, they are in Covenant with Him. It can also read, that Israel by which my Name is Called The Israel of God Gal 6:16

    So Faith and Love are in The Covenant Head and Surety of the Elect Christ Jesus, those who were given Grace in Him before the world began.
     
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    What is the Righteousness of Faith ?

    Rom 4:13

    For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

    The Righteousness which is of Faith Rom 9:30

    What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.

    Before I say what this is, The Righteousness of Faith, let me say what it's not, but what most deceived souls believe it is !

    It is not as the arminian and free-willer's claim a condition for one's Justification or Salvation !

    Its not a choice or decision of the natural mind or understanding of man. If that were True, Paul would be wrong about his statement here 2 Thess 3:2

    And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.

    For it is the Gift of God Eph 2:8; Phil 1:29 and given to God's Elect Titus 1:1 and Christ Sheep Jn 10:26

    Its not an spiritual act of ones performance in order to be Justified !

    The Righteousness of Faith, is a God wrought Faith, which enables one to apprehend [to grasp the meaning of; understand, especially intuitively perceive] and embraces the imputed Righteousness of Christ, which has been freely laid or charged to their account.

    Thats the meaning here Phil 3:9

    And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

    In other words, God given Faith lets us in on the fact that Christ has been made our Righteousness before God 1 Cor 1:30


    30But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

    Rom 10:6

    But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above )

    Faith is not a part of the Righteousness in which one is Justified before God, any more than ones mouth is a part of the food which nourishes the body. Faith is God's Gift [ Eph 2:8] It is the Fruit of the Spirit which is God's Gift [Acts 2:38] whereby they see, feed upon and Glory in Christ as He is revealed to them and in them. Faith is not a work performed by us in order to be Justified; but its a work of God in us by which we apprehend our Justification Jn 6:29

    29Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

    The reason why its God's work in us to Believe on Him is because God hath made Him our Righteousness 1 Cor 1:30

    30But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

    So this is What the Righteousness of Faith means !
     
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    The pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand

    Isa 53:10

    10Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

    And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His Hand, meaning Christ's Hand. This is speaking of the Salvation of everyone He was sent to seek and to save Lk 19:10

    10For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

    He came to save all for whom the LORD God wills to be saved and come into the knowledge of the Truth 1 Tim 2:3-4

    3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

    4Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

    The word pleasure here in Isa 53:10 is the hebrew word chephets and means:

    delight, pleasure

    a) delight

    b) desire, longing

    c) the good pleasure

    d) that in which one takes delight

    Now the word for will in 1 Tim 2:4 is the greek word thelō and means:


    to will, have in mind, intend

    a) to be resolved or determined, to purpose

    b) to desire, to wish

    So this should be easy to figure out. If its God's will or desire for all men to be saved and to come into a knowledge of the Truth, and scripture says that the pleasure or desire of the LORD shall prosper in His [ Christ whom He sent] then the LORD shall see His desire accomplished, for He entrusted it into the Hands of His Son, and scripture says that He shall prosper ! What does the word prosper mean ? Its the hebrew word tsalach and means:

    to advance, prosper, make progress, succeed, be profitable

    Its also translated effected as in 2 Chron 7:11

    11Thus Solomon finished the house of the LORD, and the king's house: and all that came into Solomon's heart to make in the house of the LORD, and in his own house, he prosperously effected.


    So all those God the Father wants to be saved and come into the knowledge of the Truth, Christ His Son effected it, He succeeded in accomplishing that, else, The Pleasure of the LORD did not prosper in His Hand.

    If one soul perishes and is lost, then Isa 53:10, stating that the pleasure of the LORD prospered in His Hand is a lie !
     
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    Christ gives repentance to Israel !

    Lk 24:45-47

    45Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

    46And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

    47And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

    The word repentance is the greek word metanoia and means:

    a change of mind, as it appears to one who repents, of a purpose he has formed or of something he has done

    All those for whom Christ died for, God's Elect, His death and the benefits of it, grants all for whom He died for Repentance, that is a change of mind.

    God had promised Abraham that in him, in his seed shall all nations be blessed Gen 12:3

    3And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

    Now if recalled Peter quoted this scripture promise in one of his sermons Acts 3:25,26

    25Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

    But lets look at vs 26

    26Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

    Here we see exactly what the blessing is of which all nations through Abraham's seed Christ shall be blessed with, its the fact that He will turn away everyone of them[The seed of Abraham] from their iniquities ! Thats Repentance.

    The word bless in vs 25 is the greek word eneulogeō and means:

    to confer benefits on, to bless

    Yes, repentance or turning us from our iniquities, conversion is bestowed upon all for whom Christ died as a benefit of His death. Christ turns us, gives us a change of mind. Jer 31:19

    Surely after that I was turned, I repented; and after that I was instructed, I smote upon my thigh: I was ashamed, yea, even confounded, because I did bear the reproach of my youth.

    Jesus turns all those He died for back to God by giving them Repentance. You see Christ Himself , is the Seed of Abraham, and took on the Seed of Abraham Gal 3:16; Heb 2:16 He was raised up as the Seed of Abraham, to be a Prince and a Saviour and to give [confer or bestow] Repentance [a Change of Mind] on Israel or the seed of Abraham Acts 5:31

    31Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. Israel here means God's Elect, His Chosen People, the Seed of Abraham. And its not limited to ethnic jews, but other sheep he hath not of that fold, they to shall be given repentance as a benefit of Christ death Acts 11:18

    18When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

    This is also a result of God's Promise " saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed."
     
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    Christ gives repentance to Israel !

    By God's Grace I have been witnessing to the fact that by Christ atoning death, he gives all for whom He died at-one-ment back to God, that is He brings them back from their alienation and estrangement from their sin in Adam their natural head, and they are returned to the bishop of their souls 1 Pet 2:25

    For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

    Peter here says they [The Sheep] are returned ! The greek word for return is epistrephō and means:

    to turn to

    1) to the worship of the true God


    to cause to return, to bring back

    The word is also translated be converted Acts 3:19

    19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.

    So here both repentance and be converted are together ! Now the word in 1 Pet 2:25 is also in the passive voice, meaning the subjects, which are the sheep who went astray, are being returned, or they are being converted or being caused to repent by the effects of Christ atoning work on the cross.

    Its the same Peter preaching in Acts 3:19 that wrote 1 Pet 2:25 !

    The death of Christ turns all for whom He died back to God. If Christ's work did not accomplish that, then the blessing of Gen 12:3 would be null and void. Peter wrote in His Epistle later, that Christ death was that which brings the Elect to God 1 Pet 3:18

    18For Christ also hath once suffered for sins [His Death], the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

    That He might bring us to God is another way of saying that He may convert us to God, or that He may Grant us repentance towards God.
     
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    God gives repentance !

    This blessing of repentance that God through Christ gives His Elect is Illustrated by the parable of the prodigal son in Lk 15:11-24

    11And he said, A certain man had two sons:

    12And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living.

    13And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.

    14And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want.

    15And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine.

    16And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.

    17And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!

    18I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee,

    19And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.

    20And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him.

    21And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son.

    22But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet:

    23And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry:

    24For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.

    Now lets look closer at vs 17-21, For what we have here in those verses is the blessing of Repentance being bestowed upon an Elect Child of God who went astray in Adam, now being returned to His Father because of the effects of the Finished work of Christ. You see, it was the result of Christ death that caused him to in verse 17 "when he came to himself" For this was the blessing of repentance being bestowed upon him beginning to work, and notice vs 18, the prodigal made up his mind that he would return back to His Father , who would be God in the Parable.

    Whats being Illustrated is what Peter wrote of in 1 Pet 2:24-25

    24Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

    25For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

    As a result of Christ stripes which is another way of saying His Death, all the elect are healed, and that healing is evinced by their return to the Shepherd and Bishop of their souls.

    Interestingly enough the greek word for returned is Epistrepho and means:

    to cause to return, to bring back

    to the love and obedience of God

    Also it is in the passive voice, meaning the subjects are being returned by a ability outside of themselves !

    This is absolute biblical proof that God through Christ gives all His People repentance !
     
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    Made Partaker of the Divine Nature !

    2 Peter 1:1-4

    1Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

    2Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,

    3According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

    4Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

    " That by these ye might be partakers of the Divine Nature".

    Because of the Precious Promises of the New Covenant [ See Heb 8:10-12 ] all those for whom Christ died, His Seed, shall partake of a Divine Nature, the New Birth.

    This stems from the fact that as Christ Spiritual Seed and in Union with Him.

    It was the same because of their Union with Adam, when He sinned, as a consequence they partake of his fallen nature, hence being born physically into this world a sinner, with a appropriate sin nature, and so likewise, the Elect because of their Union and Oneness with Christ, The Last Adam, through His obedience and One act of Righteousness, and as a consequence, they partake of His Divine Nature, through New Birth, being born again as New Creatures. So being born with a sin nature, and then a Divine Nature, evidences that one was in Union with each Head, whether Adam or Christ, that resulted in each nature !
     
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    Made Partakers of Divine Nature cont

    Just like the elect were made to partake of their sin nature, that is, it was not offered to them, it was not made available for them, they did not have a choice to accept it or reject it according to their own freewill. They were Sovereignly made partakers of it, So likewise it is in the same manner in regards to being made partakers of the New and Divine Nature.

    2 Pet 1:4

    4Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

    The word be here in the greek is the word ginomai and means:


    to become, i.e. to come into existence, begin to be, receive being
    2) to become, i.e. to come to pass, happen

    It denotes a change of condition, its a passing from death unto Life, its the creation of the New Man as here Eph 4:24

    And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

    Just Like when Adam sinned, because of union, many were made sinners by nature, and likewise, when Christ obeyed, many shall be made righteous. And the word made Rom 5:19

    For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

    its the greek word kathistēmi:

    to constitute, to render, make, cause to be

    So as you can see these definitions are quite similar. The word

    ginomai : To come into existence, to begin to be etc and the word kathistemi : To make, cause to be !
     
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    To whom is the word of salvation sent ?

    Acts 13:26

    Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.

    The Gospel is sent by God to people for either their salvation Rom 1:16 or for their condemnation. It is meant by the wise providential direction of God to be either a savor of life unto life or death unto death 2 Cor 2:

    14Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place.

    15For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish:

    16To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things?

    Now when God sends the Gospel for the purpose of salvation or conversion as Per Rom 1:16 and 1 Cor 1:18 it is the word of salvation as our text states in Acts 13:26. And when that is the case it is sent to them that Fear God ! Paul says " and whosoever among you feareth God "

    Thats right, the Gospel cannot be a word of salvation or good news unless one is already in a state of fearing God !

    This is confirmed with Peter being sent by God to Cornelius, but notice what scripture says about Cornelius Acts 10:

    1There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,

    2A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.

    Now later in the same chapter it is said that the word was sent [by God] to he and his house. See Acts 10:17,20,21,29,33


    And Acts 15 testifies to that Acts 15:7

    And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

    The Thief on the cross had the word of salvation declared to him by the King Lk 23:43

    And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.

    But look at the confession of this thief right before Lk 23:40

    But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?

    Lydia obviously was one who feared God Acts 16:14

    14And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul.

    What were the things spoken by Paul but the Gospel, the word of Salvation !

    The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom Ps 110:11

    The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.

    And then only can we depart from evil Job 28:28

    And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the LORD, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.

    If one has not the Fear of the Lord implanted by Regeneration or New Birth, then they will not depart from evil !

    The redemption that is in Christ blood, brings forgiveness of sins Eph 1:7

    7In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

    And why does God forgive sins ? Ps 130:4

    But there is forgiveness with thee, that thou mayest be feared.

    All for whom Christ died and which through His blood is the remission or forgiveness of their sins, they shall be made to fear God, and the Gospel, the word of salvation shall be sent to them..
     
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    God's sent word accomplishes its objective for God !

    Isa 55:11

    11So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void [without effect], but it shall accomplish[effect] that which I please[desire], and it shall prosper[succeed] in the thing whereto I sent it.

    If God states that His Word is sent on a Mission by Him to Accomplish that which He is pleased and to prosper in the thing whereto its sent, then why don't men believe that the Incarnate Word, Whom He sent, does not prosper and accomplish that which He Pleases ?

    For instance If God is pleased and desires that all men without exception be saved and come into a Knowledge of the Truth as many have twisted God's word to mean here 1 Tim 2:4

    4Who will[desire] have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

    Then why does not the Incarnate Word Jn 1:14 whom He sent Jn 6:39

    And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

    Who came to seek and to save that which was Lost Lk 19:10

    10For the Son of man is come[because being sent] to seek and to save that which was lost.

    Now if that is what He was sent for and came to do, then why are not all without exception being saved and come into the Knowledge of the Truth as God desires ?

    Scripture says that the Pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand. Isa 53:10

    10Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

    The word prosper here is the same word in Isa 55:11. So why does not the Incarnate Word save all for whom the Father wants or desires to be saved. For those of you who insist that 1 Tim 2:4 means all men without exception, then you will have to conclude that the Incarnate Word was not successful in all that His Father God sent Him to do..
     
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