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Hospital Sends Stroke Patient Home....

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  1. righteousdude2

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    ....With instructions to the spouse to watch the spouse closely as their loved one could have a major stroke in the next 72 hours.

    PLEASE NOTE that the following is simply my view and opinion of what I have been a witness to. I am outraged with what I have observed, and it is not the first time I've heard of this kind of care in the last six to eight months. It is, however, the first time I've witnessed this in my immediate family. When I came across this before, I thought maybe the person was embellishing the facts, but I now know it to be a fact! This hits closer to home than I would like!!!

    This is the result of my sister and her husbands medical insurance transferring their programs and services over to the new National Health Care system. These changes (not keeping someone in the hospital) are a direct result of my sister and her husbands insurance carrier and Medicare getting ready for Obamacare.

    They send home my sister's husband (age 76) and tell her that he is more than likely to suffer a major stroke, so keep an eye on him, and the symptoms they noted on the discharge notes.

    I think that something is seriously wrong here. After all, if it is the (doctors) opinion, he could incur another stroke in a certain time period, why send him home to an already frazzled, exhausted and weary spouse to "keep" a close eye on!

    Is this our future in medical care? Do we have this kind of sub-care to look forward to as we grow older?? My BIL worked for more than 45 years with this one company, in upper management, and this is the kind of care his provider is now switching over to in order to be ready for 1/11/14.

    It is getting much closer than a lot of us think! Get ready, as all of us may also be subjected to the same lack of concern and reduced care due to Obamacare! :tear:

    So, what do you folks think about this, not only as American citizens, but, more importantly, as Christians??? :type:
     
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    Insurance companies tend to follow the new Medicare guidelines the government has set up. These rules set up strict rules that limit access to healthcare.

    Physicians are quite limited in their ability to perform testing based upon an elevated assessment of risk. There has to be a symptom AND that symptom has to be on the list of approved symptoms for a particular diagnosis --- after that doctors submit the case to insurers who "pre-approve" the testing. This process can take some intense hours of work for a physician's or hospital's staff, even up to a week or two. If denied the physician must spend some of his precious time on the phone with the insurer fighting an often losing battle with the company.

    Then of course the study is performed and the physicians must re-submit the final bill to the insurers who once again decide if they will pay for the study based on the ability of the physicians to properly comply with the mounting demand for ever-changing medical codes.

    Physicians are discouraged and beginning to leave system. More and more physicians are limiting their care to non-Medicare patients.

    What do I think of this as a Christian? It's nice to know God's on my side.

    Rob
     
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    rd2, life is so cheap now-a-days. Sorry to hear the fate of your b-i-l. Soon, he will be more alive than all those in the Insurance Business and one day they will be as he is now.

    ...what a shame.
     
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    I trust that the Supreme Court will rule against Obama care.
     
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    Yes, then it will become known as RomneyCare.

    HankD
     
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    I hope you are right, but I would not bet on it. I say that because I believe we are headed full steam towards a socialist government or worse and little will or can be done to stop it from happening. Even though the court is stacked 5 to 4 politically to shoot down that law I really think that two of the 5 will cross over and let it stand. Like I said I hope I am wrong.
     
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    I am sorry to hear that. We are a people who put "in God we trust" on our money and live "in money we trust."
     
  8. InTheLight

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    While I disagree with this method of care, I seriously doubt this is due to Obamacare. There is no new "National Health Care" system. There are insurance companies and Medicare/Medicaid, same as always. Why do you think Obamacare is responsible for this care directive?

    Note: I am opposed to most provisions of Obamacare and would like to see most of it repealed.
     
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    Some are starting to make changes to be ready

    True, so very true :tear:
     
  10. righteousdude2

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    It is Fact....


    ....Most insurance companies are readying their programs, policies, and treatment in order to be ready for the new program which is only 25 months from being "law!"

    My HMO (Kaiser) and my retirement from the state of California has already begun adjusting cost, co-pays, terminology in services, etc., to gradually ready its members and retirees for what is going to be a reality on 1/1/14.

    I have received several memos from both the medical and retirement side of insurance coverage that informs members of changes that reflect their compliance with the Ntional Helath Care Referrendum.

    http://healthreform.kff.org/Timeline.aspx

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obamacare-has-increased-cost-health-insurance-says-kaiser-foundation

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...nes-unfulfilled-promises-of-health-care-bill/

    http://www.calpers.ca.gov/index.jsp?bc=/about/press/pr-archive/pr-2010/nov/health-plan-benefit.xml

    http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/maternity-coverage-suffering-under-obamacare

    One of the most stunning changes, financially speaking, is that my prescription co-pays to have gone from five dollars for a 100-day supply, to fifteen dollars (generic) and from fifteen dollars to forty-five dollars for a 100-day supply of non generic drugs.

    That is very costly for a person that is diabetic, asthmatic, and in renal failure. I need no less than 21 prescriptions filled every 100 days, so you can do the math and see that Obamacare has taken a huge chunk of cash from my wallet each month. Now if I were working, I'd probably not notice it as much as I do being on a fixed, retirement income.

    There are changes being implemented each year, and they are not going to be the "pie-in-the-sky" changes Obama promised.

    In fact, I believe most hard-working Americans will see that their good insurance coverage are disappearing right in front of their eyes, as what they worked hard for and expected to have in their golden years is now being spread out to make sure those who feel "entitled" have too!
     
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    So your sister's husband is covered by Medicare. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that insurance companies for policyholders of this age are basically administrators for the Medicare plan. In other words, they merely follow the government rules and process paperwork for the patient. If this is true, I don't see how insurance companies can legally be "getting ready for the switchover to ObamaCare" by altering Medicare guidelines and rules.
     
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