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Can we call upon the Holy Spirit for supernatural strength in times of danger?"

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by robertguwapito, Feb 29, 2012.

  1. robertguwapito

    robertguwapito New Member

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    Did not Samson's strength come from the Holy Spirit (Spirit of the Lord)?

    Judges 14:6 says about Samson, "The Spirit of the Lord came upon him in power so that he tore the lion apart." Verse 9 says, "Then the Spirit of the Lord came upon him in power. He went down to Ashkelon, struck down thirty of their men..." Judges 15:16 says, "The Spirit of the Lord came upon him in power...Finding a fresh jawbone of a donkey, he grabbed it and struck down a thousand men."

    If we have the same Spirit (who, unlike in Samson's case, is always with us) why can't we avail of His "power" or "strength" (perhaps even a tenth of what Samson had) in times of danger like imminent rape, murder, homicides, stabbings, carjackings, school shootings, etc...?

    Are we not talking about the same Spirit here? Respectfully asking (and wondering)... :saint:
     
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    Iconoclast Well-Known Member
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    Hello Robert,

    Welcome to the BB. We are not as Samson......you can get a haircut!

    God is able to keep us from evil providetially, God is able to intervene supernaturally, or God is able to be with us in the midst of the trial that comes upon us. Our attitude should be dependant on God at all times,praying for His protection.....
    14Nebuchadnezzar spake and said unto them, Is it true, O Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, do not ye serve my gods, nor worship the golden image which I have set up?

    15Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?

    16Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnezzar, we are not careful to answer thee in this matter.

    17If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king.

    18But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.

    19Then was Nebuchadnezzar full of fury, and the form of his visage was changed against Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego: therefore he spake, and commanded that they should heat the furnace one seven times more than it was wont to be heated.

    20And he commanded the most mighty men that were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace.
     
  3. robertguwapito

    robertguwapito New Member

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    Yes, I agree. But if "God is able to keep us from evil providetially, God is able to intervene supernaturally", can he not use the Holy Spirit that dwells within us? Can it not be a matter of "ask and you shall receive?"
     
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    Can we call upon the Holy Spirit for supernatural strength in times of danger?"

    Of course we can, robertguwapito.

    Often though, in times of extreme terror our adrenalin kicks in and the average man or woman can perform superhuman feats. At that point we don't have the ability to think of calling on anyone until after the trauma is over.
     
  5. 12strings

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    Yes, we certainly can ask the Holy Spirit for supernatural strength in times of danger....

    ...but we must realized that He my decide not to give it to us for various reasons.

    We need to realize that it is ultimately God who decides what kind of answer to prayer to give...and it may not always be the one we are expecting.

    We need look no farther than The apostle Paul & Jesus himself who both prayed to the Father for the removal of suffering, and God did not grant their request.
     
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    The Holy Spirt CAN always decide to do such, butSamson was a Judge, and had a "special commission" from God, and part of that was to have supernatural strenght, his spiritual gift!

    So would say God protects us, would ahve angelic hosts over us, but NOT have that sternght of samson thing going!
     
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    You are just spamming the board with the same issue. Three threads now.
     
  8. plain_n_simple

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    "Can we call upon the Holy Spirit for supernatural strength in times of danger?"

    Why would you ask that when you have your Smith and Wesson?
     
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    Samson "gun" of jaw of the Donkey able to kill thousands...

    Think if done today, god would have given him a 50 cal machine Gun!
     
  10. robertguwapito

    robertguwapito New Member

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    Certainly not. Here are the three issues again: 1) the morality of killing in self-defense, 2) the obligation to support the Second Amendment, 3) calling on the Holy Spirit in times of danger.

    (I eat SPAM, my favorite.) :laugh:
     
  11. mandym

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    And all of them in the same context.
     
  12. robertguwapito

    robertguwapito New Member

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    So you are saying that the movies, Star Wars, Alien, and Star Trek are all the same because they all happen in outer space (same context)?
     
  13. righteousdude2

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    He is right there with you in times of danger and undue fraught!

    Allow me to share Romans 8:26-28 from the (MSG) Message Bible - "Meanwhile, the moment we get tired in the waiting, God's Spirit is right alongside helping us along. If we don't know how or what to pray, it doesn't matter. He does our praying in and for us, making prayer out of our wordless sighs, our aching groans. He knows us far better than we know ourselves, knows our pregnant [to be fraught with suspense or danger] condition, and keeps us present before God. That's why we can be so sure that every detail in our lives of love for God is worked into something good."

    This version of Romans 8:26-28 is very revealing as to where the Holy Spirit is in regard to our daily walk. And I love the fact, that even in our "sighs" and "aching groans" He hears the needs of our heart! And when we least expect it, the Hand of God moves to work things out for our good!

    So yes, you can and should call upon the Holy Spirit for His supernatural intervention, be it in times of danger, or not!
     
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