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Should Foreign Money Be Allowed in USCampaigns?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Crabtownboy, Jun 17, 2012.

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  1. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy Well-Known Member
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    What are your thoughts? Should foreign money be allowed in US political campaigns? Does this not allow undue foreign influence?

     
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  2. Salty

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    In essence, there are two different questions.
    If Casino mogul Sheldon Adelson donated $10 million directly to the Romney campaign - that would be one thing.

    But if he started a PAC and made his own commercials - that is a different story.

    Apparently a candidate may not tell a PAC what to say or not to say - even if that PAC endorses that candidate.

    So should a candidate accept a donation from a foreigner. I would say not. But suppose a non-American relative of Obama want to send - say $25 into the campaign of BO - should that be allowed?

    If not, then likewise should my brother, a voting resident of South Carolina be permitted to send me money to finance my run for an office in New York State?


    Back to PAC's - by not allowing a person to buy radio time with his own money - to encourage voting for or against a candidate could be considered a violation of free speech.


    Crab - interesting discussion
     
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    A person that is incapable of voting in the election should not be allowed to insert any money at all. of course that would break the connection between Obama and the King of Saudi Arabia.
     
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  4. Salty

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    Bill,
    Are you suggesting that a non-registered voter should not be allowed to contribute to a campaign?
     
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    Lets be serious, how in the world would you stop it?:laugh:
     
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  7. freeatlast

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    My answer is no it should not be allowed, but I would also think it would be impossible to prevent. Slowed down, hindered to some degree, yes, but preventable, I doubt it.
     
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    Why not? If a foreigner comes to the U.S. do they not have freedom of speech? Or are they in a separate class of people?

    Campaign donations are a form of freedom of speech. I suppose I could support a law that all campaign donations must be drawn upon a U.S. bank.
     
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    Just because some rights are afforded a non resident does not mean all are. This same person could not vote so they should not be allowed to try and sway the election with their money or campaign for someone in any way.
     
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    This thread is deceitful.

    From the OP article:

    "The 2008 Republican presidential nominee accused Mr. Adelson of using profits from properties that he owns in Macau to influence the general election."

    Sheldon Adelson is an American born citizen.

    These are not foreign contributions.

    That Sheldon Adelson makes some of his money in investments outside of the U.S. is irrelevant.

    If the OP author truly cares about foreign contributions to American presidential elections he is a little late to the party...

    "Only after the president's 2008 win, in July of last year, his (Obama) campaign returned foreign campaign donations coming from different 39 countries..."

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/webl.../obamas-amnesia-08-campaigns-fishy-donations/
     
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    Liberals do not think corporations should be allowed to act in their best interest.

    Nice find, targus. But we already know C.T.Boy will continue the deceit, and not bother to answer the point you raised.
     
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    I got news for ya--all constitutional rights do apply to all people inside the borders of the U.S.A.

    Campaign contributions are not a constitutional right, so they may be regulated.
     
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    Money spent on political campaigns does not worry me. I do not believe there should be any limits on it. People should be able to freely spend their money on whatever they believe will make them enjoy life.

    Democrats really seem to think they have the moral high ground here. Why is this ? Because their money comes from Hollywood (no foreign money there, chuckle), or is coerced from union workers ?

    I saw a stupid bumper sticker the other day that said "I'll believe corporations are people when they execute one". I assume that's this ridiculous Citizens Untied, or sumpthin ? LOL. Corporations have been being regulated out of business since Nixon. Executed. So there you go.


    Two words for you, C.T.Boy....George Soros.
     
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    Agreed.

    Plus Mr. McCain, pleeeeease. McCain Feingold is the reason for some of the mess in campain contributions. Foreign money should not be allowed, but it has been going on for a long time on both sides of the aisle. I recall something about selling a Lincoln bedroom stay to the Chinese during the Clinton era.
     
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    Exactly - Unions have "executed" corporations by strikes, excessive union demands, ect - not to mention excessive government regulations.
    One such example
     
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  16. billwald

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    Now that international corporations are de facto US citizens and have all American rights except voting . . . .
     
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  17. billwald

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    > People should be able to freely spend their money on whatever they believe will make them enjoy life.

    I also support legalizing the growing of marijuana in one's own living room.
     
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  18. Salty

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    Talk about taxation without representation

    So you also support hard drugs also,
     
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    Marijuana is not a hard drug any more than tobacco or alcohol is.
     
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    No more than the far left should be allowed in campaigns. Both are equally evil.
     
    #20 mandym, Jun 17, 2012
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