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Mitt Romney's five biggest liabilities as GOP nominee

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  1. Crabtownboy

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    It looks like Crabby is getting as desperate as Obama is.
     
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    1) I think that could be said for the current President as well.

    2) Some truth in this one, but it is over played as having more importance then is real.

    3) Little to no significance to the average voter.

    4) No real significance to the voters.

    5) Hispanic voters, perhaps. Women, I am not so sure.

    Obama's liabilities

    1) He has not shown himself as a Marxist with socialist tendencies
    2) His run away spending
    3) His anti-Christian policies
    4) His anti Israel policies
    5) Obama care
    6) His pro-homosexual agenda
    7) His pro illegal agenda
     
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    Obama's biggest liabilities as an American!

    1. All now know he is a Marxist. Joe the Plumber and I said so 4 years ago.
    2. His casual demeanor is a cloak for his arrogance.
    3. His unknown religion?
    4. Obamacare!
    5. 5 Trillion dollars in new debt; that is $5,000,000,000,000. 12 0's? Got it right.

    Shall I continue CBT!
     
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    Romney earned his wealth. Obama has swilled at the government trough all his life, at least all his life since he quit eating dogs. And all along I thought Muslims did not like dogs.
     
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    >Romney earned his wealth

    The crime families earn their money. Dope pushers are capitalists.
     
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    Touche! :laugh:
     
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    As a Christian who is supposed to keep Christ first in all things including my politics, Romney's biggest liability is that he is a Mormon who worships a false god.

    I simply don't understand how THAT cannot be an issue for evangelicals who have for decades proclaimed that they could not support pro-choice or pro-gay candidates. Are those issues bigger than the god being worshiped?

    Why does it now appear that all that talk was just talk and a lot of evangelicals are compromising in order to get the anti-Christ candidate who is in the White House out?
     
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    Because very few hold to absolutes and most evangelicals live lives of compromise even to the point of bragging about it or upholding it as the way to go.
     
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    That's truly sad. But as the Church starts to more and more, go the way of the world, we draw ever nearer to Christ returning to get His Bride.:praying:
     
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    Hmmmmm....should Mitt Romney become President, I am pretty sure gays won't be partying in the White House.
     
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    Evidently the Secret Service sure knows how to party down.
     
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    Seems like they learned from their boss.
     
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    And we foot the bill for these parties.
     
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    Are we choosing a pastor or president? Do you compromise by using a doctor who is not a believer? Mechanic? Chef? Insurance agent?

    The undeniable truth is either Ro or O will be in office. Who would you rather have? I'm voting against O as I am logical enough to know the perfect candidate who is a believer is a mayor over a town of 2000 people, nobody knows him, and he's not running. Be sure to vote for him and ensure a second term for O...
     
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    Your profile says nothing about you - but something tells me you are well under 35.

    Back in 1960 - there were two big issues: Kennedy was a Catholic and Nixon had the 5 O'clock shadow.
    Of course, JFK won - and now the US had a Catholic President. Did it effect our Country?

    I agree with Web - we are electing a Commander-in-chief - NOT a pastor-in-chief.
    and more importantly we will be electing a President who may nominate 2-3 Supreme court justices - (which also means we need a conservative Senate)

    Salty

    PS since you are new to the board, I will inform you that "gay" and "pro-choice" are PC terms that I refuse to use the way Liberals want us to use them.
    In my very Conservative, I consider my self very gay and very pro-choice. But I am not a homosexual nor do I believe in abortion!
     
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    ??? Why on earth do people even ask this? Does God not have a part in our politics? WHAT A PERSON BELIEVES MATTERS. Because contrary to popular opinion, what they believe DOES affect the way they govern.

    It was back in February that Obama said that his religious beliefs helped guide him in making policy decisions.

    Are any of them governing over me or in a position to set policies that mandate that I do something contrary to God's word?

    Neither and I won't be voting for either. Folks keep saying the lesser of two evils. The lesser of two evils is STILL evil.

    There is no difference between Obama and his anti-Christ ways and Mitt Romney and his worship a false god ways.

    And I continue to find it absolutely absurd that evangelicals take a stance against abortion and gay everything, but are suddenly "OK" with a man who worships a false god because we think he'll make better policy decisions than Obama.

    All that says to the world is that evangelicals are just a bunch of talk because when it gets down to choosing to keep Christ FIRST or get rid of Obama, they choose get rid of Obama.


    Again, I'd much rather honor Christ by not supporting the anti-Christ candidate who is in office or Romney, who worships a false god that is not Jesus Christ. And if that means that the country gets four more years of Obama, then we truly deserve it for so many of us who are supposed to be light siding with darkness and not keeping Christ FIRST.
     
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    That something wouldn't be the Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit delivers truth. :laugh: And friend, I am DEFINITELY not well under 35.

    It sure did affect the country. It should have made a lot of folks see that Catholicism---at least that which was practiced by JFK---really didn't have many absolutes and apparently was against God.

    He's the one who popularized the whole separation of Church and State saying.
    He's the one who said that people of faith have no place in the public square.
    He was the one have the adulterous affair with Marilyn Monroe.

    The non-commitment to the things of Christ by that one Catholic and this whole separation of church and state thing is one of the primary reasons why there have been nearly 55 million murders of babies in this country since 1973.

    The non-commitment to the things of Christ by that one Catholic and this whole separation of church and state thing is one of the primary reasons why God's word was removed from schools.

    The non-commitment to the things of Christ by that one Catholic and this whole separation of church and state thing is one of the primary reasons why same sex marriage and everything gay keeps pushing the envelope.

    So y'all might be a little lax on history if you think his pitiful Catholicism and lack of a moral core did not adversely affect the country.

    As I mentioned, the current Commander-in-Chief has said that his religious beliefs affect his decision making. So what on God's green earth would lead y'all to think that a person's faith should have no place in how he governs?:confused:

    Folks can term it whatever they want. I'm gonna call the acts sin just as God's word says. And you should believe in abortion. The nearly 55 million murders in the US since '73 are proof that it exists.

    Don't let my newness throw ya. :laugh: I'm sure that I've run into a lot of these folks on another board. :laugh:
     
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    Because some confuse the two as you do.
    Yes. He gives the leadership the country deserves.
    Never said anything contrary to this

    And of his 3.5 years of continues lies...THIS you believe :laugh: What is more damaging to christianity...mormonism or islam?


    My comparison was merely to show you choose the best person for the job based on the choices given.


    If you vote for neither you ultimately vote for the winner. When you remain silent you speak the loudest. The lesser of two evil's is merely a phrase. I'm not voting for evil, I'm voting to remove the evil that is in there currently based on available choices (real choices, not the ones in our head)
    ...and its quotes like this that show you do not know the difference between choosing a pastor or choosing a president.
    Conservative principles are not for believers only. There are many atheists that believe abortion to be wrong and homosexuality to be unnatural and damaging to families. These are not spiritual principles, although they are guided by the conscience which has a spiritual root.
    No, it says that we don't live in Oz and we realize we take any victory we can over socialism and marxism.



    You are supporting one or the other whether you admit it or not.
     
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    I haven't confused anything. I just got sense enough to recognize that no matter how many times folks say "Separation of church and state", the devil doesn't care. He's gonna use any bit of unGodliness that he can to influence the state. So why does the Church think they aren't supposed to use Godliness to influence the state?


    Yep and because Christians have chosen to, just like non-Christians, set their politics up as an idol ahead of Christ by supporting a candidate who worships a false god, then perhaps the country deserves four more years of Obama.

    i didn't say that YOU had.:smilewinkgrin:

    I believe that his faith in whatever god it is he is worshiping that is NOT Jesus Christ really does influence the way he governs.


    Neither. When you've got evangelicals supporting a man who endorses the worship of a god that is not Jesus Christ, Christians have placed themselves as God's enemy. I haven't seen evangelicals en masse pushing for the support of a candidate who worships the Muslim false god.

    That's why I keep saying this is absolutely unbelievable how Christians can say they follow Christ and endorse someone who does not.

    We take a Biblical stance against candidates who are pro-commit homosexual sex acts.
    We take a Biblical stance against candidates who are pro-abortion.
    Why aren't we taking a Biblical stance against a candidate who is pro-worship a false god?

    we are supposed to keep Christ first above everything else. But it doesn't appear that the worship of a god who is not Jesus Christ quite registers up there with abortion and homosexuality when it becomes an issue of who we want in office.

    Yes, it's time for Jesus Christ to come on back and put an end to this when the very ones who are supposed to be witnessing for Him are doing the devil's work by witnessing for that which is against Him.

    I honestly cannot see how folks don't think it won't affect their witness by supporting someone who is against Christ.


    That's a cop out. If you're keeping Christ FIRST, then you're keeping Christ first. And if that means that neither person honors Christ, then neither needs to be supported by those whose witnesses are supposed to be all about them honoring Christ.


    You're thinking too much about THIS world that is not supposed to be your home. If my focus is Christ FIRST and I choose to not vote for either candidate who is against Christ, then I'm voting for maintaining my witness for Christ FIRST so that I may remain useful for helping to expand HIS Kingdom, not the United States economy.


    And quotes like this show that a large chunk of Christians don't quite get it when Scripture says In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Prov. 3:6

    Quotes like this show that a large chunk of Christians are talking out the side of their necks when they say they understand Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

    38 This is the first and great commandment.
    Matt. 22:37-38

    If you're loving God with all that you are, you'll keep His commands. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous 1 John 5:3

    Setting politics and getting Obama out of office as foremost while supporting a man who worships a false god is IDOLATRY.

    Again. Christ is to be first and foremost in the life of the Christian. A candidate could have all the morals in the world, yet the fact that he worships a false god over Jesus Christ should disqualify him in the eyes of those who follow Christ.

    As Christ is supposed to be the most important thing to the Christian, who a person is worshiping should be paramount above everything else.

    But as I've said to many a Christian. Go ahead and vote for the man who worships the false god. But the world shouldn't hear anything out of you again about a refusal to support, because of your convictions and faith, a candidate who is pro-abortion or pro-gay anything.

    Neither one is getting my vote. I don't know how you see that as supporting one or the other.

    Christians who vote for either of them are supporting that which is against Christ.
     
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