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Colorado Batman shooting shows obvious signs of being staged

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by poncho, Jul 25, 2012.

  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    In the tragic aftermath of the Aurora, Colorado shooting which has all the earmarks of a staged “false flag” event, a follow-up false flag now appears imminent. To be effective in achieving its political aim, it will have to be orders of magnitude larger and more deadly than what took place in Colorado. This article is largely focused on the safety solutions for you and your family, because above all I want people to be safe. But before we get that part, let’s explore the logical reasoning behind why another false flag attack appears imminent.

    For starters, the Batman movie theater shooting was obviously staged (http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.ht…). The evidence of this includes eyewitness reports of multiple shooters, James Holmes being drugged out of his mind in court (a common tactic used against patsies), his work as a graduate student in a government-funded neuroscience program that specifically researched altered perception of time and reality, and Holmes having somehow obtained the skill set to build a highly complex maze of makeshift grenades, binary liquid explosives, intricate flammable devices, trip wires and booby traps. The attack in Aurora, Colorado was not a run-of-the-mill random violent act by a graduate student; it was a carefully planned, plotted, funded, and well-trained attack carried out for a specific purpose.

    This fact is now obvious to well-informed NaturalNews readers, who, compared to the general public, tend to have far more in-depth knowledge of the way the world works. But as our stories have recently received unprecedented readership — NaturalNews.com recently surged beyond the web traffic of the BBC (source: Alexa.com) — it has unfortunately reached the “dumbed-down masses” who aren’t regular alternative news readers and therefore have very little knowledge of reality.

    So for those who don’t believe any of this, simply go back to sleep and change the channel. It is not mandatory for you to understand reality in order to experience it. But for those who seek understanding and knowledge of the real forces at work in our world, keep reading.


    CONTINUE . . .






     
  2. Sapper Woody

    Sapper Woody Well-Known Member

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    Ok, I am keeping an open mind here. But some of what they are saying doesn't exactly add up. I am going to bring a few of these up, and hopefully generate discussion. All quotes are going to be from the link posted in the OP.

    It's actually not that hard or expensive to get a complete suit of ballistic armor. I don't know the brand that the guy used, but I searched on EBay and found complete suits ranging from less than $100 to about $800. You don't have to have connections to the military to get military equipment.

    Anything at the police level would be considered sophisticated.

    The only part that concerns me here is the word unemployed. The "Bomb-making gear", and the "booby trap devices" aren't expensive at all. I could take a $100 bill, go into walmart, and buy everything I need to blow a house up, and even rig them to explode like a booby trap. I could even add anti-tampering devices that would make them explode if someone tried to disarm them. Granted, it's actually my job in the military to know this kind of stuff, but you can google it to learn all about it.

    He had some interesting items in the house though, like the fireworks. That was an interesting choice, especially given the cheaper alternatives.

    That "thousands of dollars" is actually free on the internet, and the bomb making equipment is called "household items".

    After googling some materials, 30 improvised grenades would run me about $25-$50. And wires as an expense? You can get a spool of speaker wire from any Wal-Mart or similar store for just a few dollars for several hundred feet. My buddy experimented with "binary explosives" when he was a teenager. Using his allowance, he was able to make several explosives to test out. (On a funny but unfortunate note, he caught himself on fire when he made one too unstable. It made for a great laugh for us watching once we realized he was ok.) They never define "exotic bomb equipment". Like I've already said, "bomb making equipment" should be changed to "common household items".

    Now, this would be the bulk of the expense here. This would actually cost a bit. Not going to get much argument from me here. Sidenote: If you have an "Assault" rifle, and can only fire 50-60 rounds per minute with a 100-round magazine, you must be mentally slow.

    What keeps me in suspicion about the deal is the proximity to the UN Arms treaty, and then the response by President Obama about more gun control needed. Even the out of character behavior isn't too much of a problem for me. I wouldn't think that a man who is going to go into a theatre and open fire would announce it beforehand, or show signs of a premeditated plot to kill people. That's kind of counter productive.

    All in all, I am keeping an open mind, but the jury is still out in my mind.
     
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    :laugh::laugh::laugh:

    You've really gone 'round the bend this time. :laugh:

    And you wonder why no one pays any attention to you.
     
  4. poncho

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    How about some more questions then Sapper?

    WERE THE BATMAN MURDERS A COVERT OP?

    Evidently Holmes, or someone mailed a forewarning.

    Then we have the packages (2) in the mailroom of the U. of Colorado, Anschutz campus. Press reports indicate a professor of psychiatry at the school called police because there was a package (with no indication of the sender) in the mailroom, addressed to him. The professor suspected it might have been sent by Holmes. This turned out to be wrong. That package had no bearing on the case. But in a search of the mailroom, ANOTHER package was found, which had been sent by Holmes to the professor. It had been sitting there as long as a week before its discovery on July 23rd. It contained a notebook, and the notebook contained Holmes’ descriptions of how he was going to kill people.

    CONTINUE . . .

    Could you have made a positive ID on a person wearing tactical gear and a gas mask while you were being shot at in a smoke filled room? I doubt I could.
     
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    Carpro, for once we are in 100% agreement. :wavey:
     
  6. poncho

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    And yet my threads always seem to get more views than Carpro's threads. That sort of puts the kibash on his theory that no one pays any attention to me doesn't it? :laugh:

    Don't believe it? Go compare our numbers.

    People tend to discuss what they know and what they know here is the false left vs right paradigm. Reality is as yet unknown here or denied for the most part but I think that's changing as the things I have always talked about are becoming obvious to more and more people.

    You and Carpro are still 15 or 20 years behind the curve yet but don't worry you'll catch up to me someday, maybe. :smilewinkgrin:

    To even suggest Holmes may be a mind-control subject brings immediate criticism, to which I would offer this counter: why accept the scenario of the crime put forward by the Aurora police? Why do they deserve the benefit of the doubt? Why limit and narrow the investigation to their story?

    Was law enforcement correct about the JFK and RFK and MLK assassinations? Was law enforcement correct about the Columbine massacre,
    in which 101 witnesses state they saw other shooters? Was law enforcement correct about the lone duo of plotters in the Oklahoma bombing? Was law enforcement correct about 9/11?

    In all cases—no.
     
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    Yes, yes, yes, and yes!
     
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    my brother in law is a cop and saw the surveilance video from columbine...the unedited one the public is blocked from seeing. There were no other shooters.
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    And I know people whose kids were there. You are correct.
     
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    And are you also a truther?
     
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    Well, I don't know about all this conspiracy stuff, but I did wonder from the very start how this fellow got in an exit door. Either someone opened the door for him or it was prepared beforehand so that it could be opened from the outside, but even that seems difficult, especially by someone carrying multiple weapons and tear gas bombs.
     
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    He bought a ticket...went out the exit and propped the door...retreived the bags...and went inside.
     
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    I was in Denver metro the night of the shooting....
    and I work in law enforcement.....we have discussed this incident.

    There were no other shooters involved, and the shooter had the money
    to rent an apt and live, so he had the means to buy everything he needed to perform his sick act.

    Yes, he is crazy.....anybody who kills somebody else has popped a cork.

    But he should fry for this.
     
  14. Winman

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    Oh, they know he was inside? I hadn't heard this.

    I had heard that witnesses said a man answered a cell call and stood in this exit for some minutes. Was this Holmes?
     
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    Propped the door open for how long?

    Surely there was light coming in from the parking lot.

    Then (allegedly) he came in while the movie was in progress.

    Apart from conspiracy theories, something is wrong with this picture (propped the door open) no matter what scenario of circumstances is cited.

    HankD
     
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    Where was the theater management?

    When I was a kid one of my cousins would buy a ticket and then attempt to let us (three more cousins) in by opening an exit door which immediately brought ushers to collar us and throw us all out.

    Sometimes we made it sometimes not but then the ushers were on their guard.

    Are there no "ushers" anymore?

    HankD
     
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    Ever hear of duct tape over the dead-latch. Sheesh, it's not that difficult to make a door unable to latch/lock.
     
  18. InTheLight

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    Take a good look at this post folks. Here we have the classic conspiracy theorist technique of using leading questions:

    How does an unemployed medical student afford all the complex weapons gear, bomb-making gear, "flammable" booby trap devices, etc.

    After killing scores of people and wounding others, the first-time shooter was calm? How could this be? Well, drugs would enter the equation. What drugs? Vicodin. Others? Where were these drugs obtained? Who wrote the prescriptions? Where is the doctor? Why have we heard nothing about a doctor? What, exactly, going back into childhood, is Holmes’ pharmaceutical history?


    [notice how by asking about drugs, the doctor, prescription, pharmaceutical history, the writer has got the reader distracted into presupposing there were drugs involved!]

    Using innuendo:
    If this was a true covert op, it would have been easy for a pro shooter to decimate the people in the theater, slip out the exit door with his accomplice or accomplices, where the patsy,

    Putting all this crap aside, WHAT IS THE MOTIVATION FOR STAGING THIS?
     
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    I don't know about everyone else but I read your posts purely for the comedy.
     
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    The shootings occurred about a half hour into the movie. Ushers don't stay in the thearer much after the movie starts.

    Might as well ask why there weren't miniature drones flying around surveiling the theater.
     
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